Re: EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-11 Thread Arthur Chance

On 04/11/13 15:43, Michael Sierchio wrote:

I have constructed several AMIs.  If I get a sense for which flavor of
instance/OS combos are of interest, I can roll a few and make them
available.


I'd be more interested in a step by step How To so I could roll my own.

I need to use EU instances because of data protection laws, and the 
Windows tax on micro instances in the EU is a huge 75%!



On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Don O'Neil  wrote:

Have you made any AMI's based on this method? I would love to deploy a
medium or large instance that isn't subject to the 'tax', but don't really
know where to start to build one like this.

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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sierchio
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:05 PM
To: jflowers
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: EC2 Instances Future

I still follow Colin's original pattern of using a minimal "Linux"
grub boot EBS device (1GB), ext2fs, with the root partition being on another
(ufs2) EBS device.  This works very well, with a couple of caveats -

- Install e2fsprogs (pkg or port) - you will need it, on occasion when
modifying the boot device (after mounting rw).

- Kernel upgrades are tricky, so be careful

- Edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf intelligently to prevent unintended
consequences

Apart from that, I have been running i386 and amd64 instances this way, both
8.3 and 9.1, without difficulty (apart from some Xen clock weirdness in
8.3).

No Windoze Tax. ;-)

- M


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, jflowers  wrote:

Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a
year) to avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller
(t1.micro, m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but
don't find anything much online about a possible solution.  Probably
because I don't understand as much as I think.

Thanks.

--
Jim Flowers 



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RE: EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-11 Thread Don O'Neil
I personally need medium and large instances, but I would think others might
need the tiny and small as well. Colin has published his for the cluster
compute models, so I don't think there is need for that.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sierchio
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:44 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: EC2 Instances Future

I have constructed several AMIs.  If I get a sense for which flavor of
instance/OS combos are of interest, I can roll a few and make them
available.

- M

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Don O'Neil  wrote:
> Have you made any AMI's based on this method? I would love to deploy a 
> medium or large instance that isn't subject to the 'tax', but don't 
> really know where to start to build one like this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Sierchio
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:05 PM
> To: jflowers
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: EC2 Instances Future
>
> I still follow Colin's original pattern of using a minimal "Linux"
> grub boot EBS device (1GB), ext2fs, with the root partition being on 
> another
> (ufs2) EBS device.  This works very well, with a couple of caveats -
>
> - Install e2fsprogs (pkg or port) - you will need it, on occasion when 
> modifying the boot device (after mounting rw).
>
> - Kernel upgrades are tricky, so be careful
>
> - Edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf intelligently to prevent unintended 
> consequences
>
> Apart from that, I have been running i386 and amd64 instances this 
> way, both
> 8.3 and 9.1, without difficulty (apart from some Xen clock weirdness 
> in 8.3).
>
> No Windoze Tax. ;-)
>
> - M
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, jflowers  wrote:
>> Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a
>> year) to avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller 
>> (t1.micro, m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but 
>> don't find anything much online about a possible solution.  Probably 
>> because I don't understand as much as I think.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Flowers 
>>
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Re: EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-11 Thread Michael Sierchio
I have constructed several AMIs.  If I get a sense for which flavor of
instance/OS combos are of interest, I can roll a few and make them
available.

- M

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Don O'Neil  wrote:
> Have you made any AMI's based on this method? I would love to deploy a
> medium or large instance that isn't subject to the 'tax', but don't really
> know where to start to build one like this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sierchio
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:05 PM
> To: jflowers
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: EC2 Instances Future
>
> I still follow Colin's original pattern of using a minimal "Linux"
> grub boot EBS device (1GB), ext2fs, with the root partition being on another
> (ufs2) EBS device.  This works very well, with a couple of caveats -
>
> - Install e2fsprogs (pkg or port) - you will need it, on occasion when
> modifying the boot device (after mounting rw).
>
> - Kernel upgrades are tricky, so be careful
>
> - Edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf intelligently to prevent unintended
> consequences
>
> Apart from that, I have been running i386 and amd64 instances this way, both
> 8.3 and 9.1, without difficulty (apart from some Xen clock weirdness in
> 8.3).
>
> No Windoze Tax. ;-)
>
> - M
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, jflowers  wrote:
>> Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a
>> year) to avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller
>> (t1.micro, m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but
>> don't find anything much online about a possible solution.  Probably
>> because I don't understand as much as I think.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Flowers 
>>
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RE: EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-10 Thread Don O'Neil
Have you made any AMI's based on this method? I would love to deploy a
medium or large instance that isn't subject to the 'tax', but don't really
know where to start to build one like this. 

-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sierchio
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:05 PM
To: jflowers
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: EC2 Instances Future

I still follow Colin's original pattern of using a minimal "Linux"
grub boot EBS device (1GB), ext2fs, with the root partition being on another
(ufs2) EBS device.  This works very well, with a couple of caveats -

- Install e2fsprogs (pkg or port) - you will need it, on occasion when
modifying the boot device (after mounting rw).

- Kernel upgrades are tricky, so be careful

- Edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf intelligently to prevent unintended
consequences

Apart from that, I have been running i386 and amd64 instances this way, both
8.3 and 9.1, without difficulty (apart from some Xen clock weirdness in
8.3).

No Windoze Tax. ;-)

- M


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, jflowers  wrote:
> Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a 
> year) to avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller 
> (t1.micro, m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but 
> don't find anything much online about a possible solution.  Probably 
> because I don't understand as much as I think.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Jim Flowers 
>
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Re: EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Sierchio
I still follow Colin's original pattern of using a minimal "Linux"
grub boot EBS device (1GB), ext2fs, with the root partition being on
another  (ufs2) EBS device.  This works very well, with a couple of
caveats -

- Install e2fsprogs (pkg or port) - you will need it, on occasion when
modifying the boot device (after mounting rw).

- Kernel upgrades are tricky, so be careful

- Edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf intelligently to prevent unintended consequences

Apart from that, I have been running i386 and amd64 instances this
way, both 8.3 and 9.1, without difficulty (apart from some Xen clock
weirdness in 8.3).

No Windoze Tax. ;-)

- M


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, jflowers  wrote:
> Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a year) to
> avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller (t1.micro,
> m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but don't find anything
> much online about a possible solution.  Probably because I don't understand as
> much as I think.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Jim Flowers 
>
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EC2 Instances Future

2013-04-10 Thread jflowers
Is there anything likely to be available in the future (3 months to a year) to
avoid the Windows tax on FreeBSD instances for the smaller (t1.micro,
m1.small, m1.medium) types?  I understand the problem but don't find anything
much online about a possible solution.  Probably because I don't understand as
much as I think.

Thanks.

--
Jim Flowers 

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