Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-11 Thread xSAPPYx
Using a phoronix link as an example, ext4 still has some pretty bad data loss bugs: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Nzk0OA imo: data security of ufs speed of ext4 ymmv ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-10 Thread krad
On 9 February 2010 16:11, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.grwrote: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +, Frank Shute wrote: AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for ports

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-09 Thread krad
On 9 February 2010 01:54, J65nko j65...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, alex a...@mailinglist.ahhyes.net wrote: I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred disk writes etc.

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-09 Thread George Liaskos
For what is worth these are the results on my Lenovo Thinkpad T500 with zfs. http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=profileu=thuglife-5875-16786-4629 dmesg | grep ada0 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: WDC WD2500BEKT-00A25T0 01.01A01 ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-09 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +, Frank Shute wrote: AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for ports you'll install a compiler from ports. Can you provide a URL for some discussion of

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 08 February 2010 05:46:07 alex wrote: Pieter de Goeje wrote: The fact that the limit is 86MB/sec (which is very low for a raid0 array) makes me think the box suffers from sub optimal network performance during a simple stream test like yours. This could be due to FreeBSD having

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:01:05AM +1100, alex wrote: Frank Shute wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:01:05AM +1100, alex wrote: Frank Shute wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +, Frank Shute wrote: AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for ports you'll install a compiler from ports. Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. -- Chad Perrin

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Ben Schumacher
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this?  I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. A quick search yielded these links: http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Mihai Donțu
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:54:26 Pieter de Goeje wrote: Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), under ext4 the deletion of the

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Derek Buttineau
On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. Here's last year's status report where they talk about it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-May/049873.html It was also in

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:11:26PM -0700, Ben Schumacher wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this?  I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. A quick search yielded these links:

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:12:25PM -0500, Derek Buttineau wrote: On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. Here's last year's status report where they talk about it:

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:12:25PM -0500, Derek Buttineau wrote: On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang.

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 08 February 2010 21:19:01 Mihai Donțu wrote: On Monday 08 February 2010 12:54:26 Pieter de Goeje wrote: Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-08 Thread J65nko
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, alex a...@mailinglist.ahhyes.net wrote: I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred disk writes etc. Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a

FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread alex
Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network was 60MB/s

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread alex
Original Message Subject:FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:41:29 +1100 From: alex a...@mailinglist.ahhyes.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi Guys, Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. So you had a machine that had

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread alex
Frank Shute wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. So

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Sunday 07 February 2010 15:41:29 alex wrote: Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. Previously, the maximum I could get

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 07 February 2010 pm 22:41:29 alex wrote: Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. can you do the same for FreeBSD? Just install

Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4

2010-02-07 Thread alex
Pieter de Goeje wrote: The fact that the limit is 86MB/sec (which is very low for a raid0 array) makes me think the box suffers from sub optimal network performance during a simple stream test like yours. This could be due to FreeBSD having a poor network driver for your particular NIC or