RE: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
Hey.. Hehe yes I rebooted the server.. It was weird because now its not there anymore.. I had to add it to /etc/rc.conf But in /etc/default/rc.conf its default is NO.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of epilogue Sent: Monday, 12 July 2004 2:27 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:00:00 +1000 Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already made a custom kernel and disabled usb in /etc/rc.conf I guess they aren't causing me any harm ill just leave them alone for now..:) Thanks tho hello steven, this will probably sound silly, and if you think so too, i'll take your silence as 'yes, silly bunny.' 1) have you rebooted since the changes to rc.conf? 2) does your rc.conf entry include the marks? usbd_enable=NO 3) does a 'usbd_enable' line appear 'more than once' in your rc.conf? several rc.conf entries are generated by the installation. perhaps you've got two. you may have created your NO entry at the top of the file and have a YES entry a few lines down. anyhoo. hope that this gives you something to double check. cheers, epi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 11:50 PM To: Steven Adams Cc: 'Arjan Van Leeuwen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 10:09:54PM +1000, Steven Adams wrote: Ive already disabled usbd_enable=no in /etc/rc.conf But still I get theses root 399 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.03 (usb0) root 400 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.00 (usbtask) And yes I ran make install, I know it worked because I also compiled in quota support which is now working and wasn't previously. I am a 5year slackware linux user just moved over to FreeBSD so im used to the linux kernel, that's why its confused me a little. FreeBSD is looking great tho.. :) But yeh wondering how I get rid of them 2 processes. Those are not ordinary processes. Rather they are kernel threads (or some such description) -- along the same lines as the vmdaemon, swapper or syncer threads. In order to get rid of them, you'ld have to compile a custom kernel with all of the usb support ripped out *and* you'ld have to take steps to prevent the kernel autoloading a usb.ko kernel module on boot up. If you have inadvertently loaded a usb kld module -- use kldstat(8) to see if that is the case -- then you should be able to unload it with kldunload(8), so long as it's not actually busy doing stuff. On the whole though, I wouldn't bother too much about those usb kernel thread things. They're generally harmless and they don't have any impact on the rest of the system if there are no USB peripherals in use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
Hey, Reading from the FreeBSD Handbook I have compiled a new kernel that works fine. In my config file I commented out a few things I don't need eg USB etc. But for some reason when it booted back up into the new kernel, from ps aux it shows usb is up and running.. /boot/kernel shows that usb.ko is there. I don't understand why its included which I commented it out Am I doing something wrong? Thanks Steve ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
On Sunday 11 July 2004 12:25 am, Steven Adams wrote: Hey, Reading from the FreeBSD Handbook I have compiled a new kernel that works fine. In my config file I commented out a few things I don't need eg USB etc. But for some reason when it booted back up into the new kernel, from ps aux it shows usb is up and running.. /boot/kernel shows that usb.ko is there. I don't understand why its included which I commented it out Am I doing something wrong? Did you do a make kernel to build and install the new kernel? Kent Thanks Steve ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
Hi Steve, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:25:40 +1000, Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Reading from the FreeBSD Handbook I have compiled a new kernel that works fine. In my config file I commented out a few things I don't need eg USB etc. But for some reason when it booted back up into the new kernel, from ps aux it shows usb is up and running.. You mean that the program usbd is running. This is a userland program that detects new USB devices and starts some predefined sequence of commands when a certain device enters the system. You can turn it off by adding usbd_enable=NO to /etc/rc.conf. /boot/kernel shows that usb.ko is there. I don't understand why its included which I commented it out There's a difference between 'compiling something into the kernel' and using a kernel module. usb.ko is a kernel loadable module - a module that you can load with kldload if you need it. It's not compiled into the kernel. When you had 'device usb' in your kernel, usb would be compiled into the kernel and you'd never need to load the kernel loadable module for it. Now, you've removed usb from your kernel configuration file, so usb support is not in your kernel. Should you need it later, you can always load the module. If the module is not loaded, it doesn't take up any resources (except for the hard drive space it uses), so it shouldn't bother you. If you really don't want to compile any modules at all when building your kernel (for example, to save time when building a kernel), add NO_MODULES=true to /etc/make.conf. Arjan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
Hi, Ive already disabled usbd_enable=no in /etc/rc.conf But still I get theses root 399 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.03 (usb0) root 400 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.00 (usbtask) And yes I ran make install, I know it worked because I also compiled in quota support which is now working and wasn't previously. I am a 5year slackware linux user just moved over to FreeBSD so im used to the linux kernel, that's why its confused me a little. FreeBSD is looking great tho.. :) But yeh wondering how I get rid of them 2 processes. Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arjan Van Leeuwen Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 9:14 PM To: Steven Adams Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules Hi Steve, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:25:40 +1000, Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Reading from the FreeBSD Handbook I have compiled a new kernel that works fine. In my config file I commented out a few things I don't need eg USB etc. But for some reason when it booted back up into the new kernel, from ps aux it shows usb is up and running.. You mean that the program usbd is running. This is a userland program that detects new USB devices and starts some predefined sequence of commands when a certain device enters the system. You can turn it off by adding usbd_enable=NO to /etc/rc.conf. /boot/kernel shows that usb.ko is there. I don't understand why its included which I commented it out There's a difference between 'compiling something into the kernel' and using a kernel module. usb.ko is a kernel loadable module - a module that you can load with kldload if you need it. It's not compiled into the kernel. When you had 'device usb' in your kernel, usb would be compiled into the kernel and you'd never need to load the kernel loadable module for it. Now, you've removed usb from your kernel configuration file, so usb support is not in your kernel. Should you need it later, you can always load the module. If the module is not loaded, it doesn't take up any resources (except for the hard drive space it uses), so it shouldn't bother you. If you really don't want to compile any modules at all when building your kernel (for example, to save time when building a kernel), add NO_MODULES=true to /etc/make.conf. Arjan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 10:09:54PM +1000, Steven Adams wrote: Ive already disabled usbd_enable=no in /etc/rc.conf But still I get theses root 399 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.03 (usb0) root 400 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.00 (usbtask) And yes I ran make install, I know it worked because I also compiled in quota support which is now working and wasn't previously. I am a 5year slackware linux user just moved over to FreeBSD so im used to the linux kernel, that's why its confused me a little. FreeBSD is looking great tho.. :) But yeh wondering how I get rid of them 2 processes. Those are not ordinary processes. Rather they are kernel threads (or some such description) -- along the same lines as the vmdaemon, swapper or syncer threads. In order to get rid of them, you'ld have to compile a custom kernel with all of the usb support ripped out *and* you'ld have to take steps to prevent the kernel autoloading a usb.ko kernel module on boot up. If you have inadvertently loaded a usb kld module -- use kldstat(8) to see if that is the case -- then you should be able to unload it with kldunload(8), so long as it's not actually busy doing stuff. On the whole though, I wouldn't bother too much about those usb kernel thread things. They're generally harmless and they don't have any impact on the rest of the system if there are no USB peripherals in use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpOMvQAGerdk.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
I already made a custom kernel and disabled usb in /etc/rc.conf I guess they aren't causing me any harm ill just leave them alone for now.. :) Thanks tho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 11:50 PM To: Steven Adams Cc: 'Arjan Van Leeuwen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 10:09:54PM +1000, Steven Adams wrote: Ive already disabled usbd_enable=no in /etc/rc.conf But still I get theses root 399 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.03 (usb0) root 400 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.00 (usbtask) And yes I ran make install, I know it worked because I also compiled in quota support which is now working and wasn't previously. I am a 5year slackware linux user just moved over to FreeBSD so im used to the linux kernel, that's why its confused me a little. FreeBSD is looking great tho.. :) But yeh wondering how I get rid of them 2 processes. Those are not ordinary processes. Rather they are kernel threads (or some such description) -- along the same lines as the vmdaemon, swapper or syncer threads. In order to get rid of them, you'ld have to compile a custom kernel with all of the usb support ripped out *and* you'ld have to take steps to prevent the kernel autoloading a usb.ko kernel module on boot up. If you have inadvertently loaded a usb kld module -- use kldstat(8) to see if that is the case -- then you should be able to unload it with kldunload(8), so long as it's not actually busy doing stuff. On the whole though, I wouldn't bother too much about those usb kernel thread things. They're generally harmless and they don't have any impact on the rest of the system if there are no USB peripherals in use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:00:00 +1000 Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already made a custom kernel and disabled usb in /etc/rc.conf I guess they aren't causing me any harm ill just leave them alone for now..:) Thanks tho hello steven, this will probably sound silly, and if you think so too, i'll take your silence as 'yes, silly bunny.' 1) have you rebooted since the changes to rc.conf? 2) does your rc.conf entry include the marks? usbd_enable=NO 3) does a 'usbd_enable' line appear 'more than once' in your rc.conf? several rc.conf entries are generated by the installation. perhaps you've got two. you may have created your NO entry at the top of the file and have a YES entry a few lines down. anyhoo. hope that this gives you something to double check. cheers, epi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 11:50 PM To: Steven Adams Cc: 'Arjan Van Leeuwen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Recompile, Does not exclude modules On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 10:09:54PM +1000, Steven Adams wrote: Ive already disabled usbd_enable=no in /etc/rc.conf But still I get theses root 399 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.03 (usb0) root 400 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Sat04PM 0:00.00 (usbtask) And yes I ran make install, I know it worked because I also compiled in quota support which is now working and wasn't previously. I am a 5year slackware linux user just moved over to FreeBSD so im used to the linux kernel, that's why its confused me a little. FreeBSD is looking great tho.. :) But yeh wondering how I get rid of them 2 processes. Those are not ordinary processes. Rather they are kernel threads (or some such description) -- along the same lines as the vmdaemon, swapper or syncer threads. In order to get rid of them, you'ld have to compile a custom kernel with all of the usb support ripped out *and* you'ld have to take steps to prevent the kernel autoloading a usb.ko kernel module on boot up. If you have inadvertently loaded a usb kld module -- use kldstat(8) to see if that is the case -- then you should be able to unload it with kldunload(8), so long as it's not actually busy doing stuff. On the whole though, I wouldn't bother too much about those usb kernel thread things. They're generally harmless and they don't have any impact on the rest of the system if there are no USB peripherals in use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
