Re: GUI for file permissions management
2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: Someone asked me recently whether a GUI for file permissions management Anything like: mc, worker, rox, etc? -- Thomas Adam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI for file permissions management
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:22:17AM +, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: Someone asked me recently whether a GUI for file permissions management Anything like: mc, worker, rox, etc? Those are all filesystem browsers/managers -- right? I've already told the person who asked that many such applications have that kind of functionality. In my initial question to this list, I said: I know that some filesystem browser applications like Nautilus provide at least some of that kind of functionality, but wondered if there was a somewhat simple, stand-alone GUI that covered that kind of thing out there. Do you know if there's anything like *that* available, rather than an entire filesystem browser/manager application that just happens to also have a way to change permissions on files and directories? Also . . . do any of the applications you mentioned provide a way to manage things like umasks or home directory default permissions? In my original post to this list, I had also mentioned that sort of thing: login.conf or adduser.conf configuration . . . though I'm not holding my breath on that. I rather suspect managing umasks in login.conf and user directory default permissions in adduser.conf is not something anyone has bothered to incorporate in a GUI interface. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpq4y6aK2tyW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GUI for file permissions management
2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: Those are all filesystem browsers/managers -- right? I've already told the person who asked that many such applications have that kind of functionality. In my initial question to this list, I said: I know what you mentioned -- unfortunately you're only going to find what you want as *part* of something much larger -- in this case a file manager. And in the examples I gave, those are considered light-weight, especially midnight commander. Do you know if there's anything like *that* available, rather than an entire filesystem browser/manager application that just happens to also have a way to change permissions on files and directories? See above. I have never come across anything standalone, and at this point, given your somewhat unique requirements, you might be better off writing one yourself perhaps in Tk or something. :) Also . . . do any of the applications you mentioned provide a way to manage things like umasks or home directory default permissions? In my original post to this list, I had also mentioned that sort of thing: This would be more beneficial as a shell setting -- changing one's umask at the drop of a hat is almost always the wrong thing to do. login.conf or adduser.conf configuration . . . though I'm not holding my breath on that. I rather suspect managing umasks in login.conf and user directory default permissions in adduser.conf is not something anyone has bothered to incorporate in a GUI interface. Correct, see above. It's not something one would interactively change. especially as it's a shell setting -- so this GUI app would have a hard time enforcing it (c.f. interactive shell instances already open.) Kindly, -- Thomas Adam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI for file permissions management
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 07:23:33PM +, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: Those are all filesystem browsers/managers -- right? I've already told the person who asked that many such applications have that kind of functionality. In my initial question to this list, I said: I know what you mentioned -- unfortunately you're only going to find what you want as *part* of something much larger -- in this case a file manager. And in the examples I gave, those are considered light-weight, especially midnight commander. Do you know if there's anything like *that* available, rather than an entire filesystem browser/manager application that just happens to also have a way to change permissions on files and directories? See above. I have never come across anything standalone, and at this point, given your somewhat unique requirements, you might be better off writing one yourself perhaps in Tk or something. :) I was afraid that might be the case. I guess the filesystem browser approach and the desktop environment approach are the only options available to the person who asked the question, then -- at least unless and until I develop the urge to write a permissions management GUI that I'll probably never use myself. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Also . . . do any of the applications you mentioned provide a way to manage things like umasks or home directory default permissions? In my original post to this list, I had also mentioned that sort of thing: This would be more beneficial as a shell setting -- changing one's umask at the drop of a hat is almost always the wrong thing to do. It's not so much for the purpose of being able to change it at the drop of a hat that the person asked me about this, I think. He just wants to be able to do everything without ever having to touch a configuration file directly. While I think that's probably the wrong way to do it, some people just refuse to take a different approach, and I still feel the urge to try to be helpful when someone asks how he can do something. login.conf or adduser.conf configuration . . . though I'm not holding my breath on that. I rather suspect managing umasks in login.conf and user directory default permissions in adduser.conf is not something anyone has bothered to incorporate in a GUI interface. Correct, see above. It's not something one would interactively change. especially as it's a shell setting -- so this GUI app would have a hard time enforcing it (c.f. interactive shell instances already open.) I don't think he cares as much about *enforcing* it as about setting defaults that can be overridden on a case-by-case basis, rather than having to override a default he doesn't want in almost every case. Anyway . . . thanks again for the responses. I'll just add some confirmation of my suspicion that nothing like what I asked about exists to my repertoire of knowledge. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpvQ2AucBz4e.pgp Description: PGP signature
GUI for file permissions management
Someone asked me recently whether a GUI for file permissions management (front end for stuff like umask, chmod, and maybe even login.conf or adduser.conf configuration) exists. I know that some filesystem browser applications like Nautilus provide at least some of that kind of functionality, but wondered if there was a somewhat simple, stand-alone GUI that covered that kind of thing out there. I seem to be using the wrong search terms for Google and `cd /usr/ports; make search key=foo`, because I haven't been able to nail down anything like that. Must one be a KDE or Gnome user to get that kind of tool? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp3XAigpEkuy.pgp Description: PGP signature
