Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Costa, Rodrigo Luiz Vargas (Rodrigo)
FreeBSD team,

I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or VINUM).
Is this possible?

I tried to find in documentation an could not find an answer.

Thanks,

Rodrigo.

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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
From: Costa, Rodrigo Luiz Vargas (Rodrigo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager


 FreeBSD team,

 I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
 install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or
VINUM).
 Is this possible?

 I tried to find in documentation an could not find an answer.

Did you try the handbook?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum
.html

Greg Lehey of the FreeBSD core team does a great job
with vinum.

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.


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RE: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Costa, Rodrigo Luiz Vargas (Rodrigo)
Kevin,

I read this document but I still with doubt if is possible during
the installation of FreeBSD use LVM.

The installation document
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.htm
l) only makes reference for a static partitioning.

Does anyone knows if is possible, during the installation, use LVM
to create root partition?

Thanks,

Rodrigo.

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Subject: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager


 FreeBSD team,

 I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
 install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or
VINUM).
 Is this possible?

 I tried to find in documentation an could not find an answer.

Did you try the handbook?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum
.html

Greg Lehey of the FreeBSD core team does a great job
with vinum.

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
And, to correct/augment my informationGreg WROTE Vinum

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:27 AM
 Subject: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager


  FreeBSD team,
 
  I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
  install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager
or
 VINUM).
  Is this possible?
 
  I tried to find in documentation an could not find an answer.
 
 Did you try the handbook?


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum
 .html

 Greg Lehey of the FreeBSD core team does a great job
 with vinum.

 Kevin Kinsey
 DaleCo, S.P.


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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Toomas Aas
Hi!

   I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
 install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or VINUM).
 Is this possible?

It seems that Greg Lehey hasn't got the time to read lists right now, 
so I'll just chime in and say that TTBOMK it is not possible to have 
root partition on vinum volume, at least in FreeBSD 4.x.

It seems to me that this is kind of chicken-and-egg problem - if the 
support for vinum volumes is implemented as a module (vinum.ko), then 
you need to load this module before you can access the logical volume. 
Hence, vinum.ko itself can't be on a vinum volume :-)
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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread David Siebörger
At  9:08 PM on Tuesday 12 November 2002, Toomas Aas wrote:
 It seems to me that this is kind of chicken-and-egg problem - if the 
 support for vinum volumes is implemented as a module (vinum.ko), then 
 you need to load this module before you can access the logical volume. 
 Hence, vinum.ko itself can't be on a vinum volume :-)

That's true, but there's an article Bootstrapping Vinum, which
describes how to make the best of the situation, though.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/


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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Marco Radzinschi

But it could be a kernel compile option, such as NetBSD's and OpenBSD's
RAIDFrame. I set up a server with NetBSD with the root partition on RAID
the other day - works fine.

Only problem is that I had to have the kernel in a non-RAID partition.  In
the case of vinum, I suppose one would have to have the kernel and
modules on a non-RAID partition.

That is, assumming Mr. Lehey add support for this. :-)

Marco Radzinschi

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looks into you. -- Friedrich Nietzsche (Beyond Good and Evil)

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Toomas Aas wrote:

 Hi!

  I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
  install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or VINUM).
  Is this possible?

 It seems that Greg Lehey hasn't got the time to read lists right now,
 so I'll just chime in and say that TTBOMK it is not possible to have
 root partition on vinum volume, at least in FreeBSD 4.x.

 It seems to me that this is kind of chicken-and-egg problem - if the
 support for vinum volumes is implemented as a module (vinum.ko), then
 you need to load this module before you can access the logical volume.
 Hence, vinum.ko itself can't be on a vinum volume :-)
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Re: Installation of FreeBSD using volume manager

2002-11-12 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 November 2002 at 21:08:56 +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:
 Hi!

  I would like to ask you if is possible, and after which version,
 install FreeBSD using virtual disks (like Veritas Volume Manager or VINUM).
 Is this possible?

 It seems that Greg Lehey hasn't got the time to read lists right
 now,

Correct.  It was 3 am here.

 so I'll just chime in and say that TTBOMK it is not possible to have
 root partition on vinum volume, at least in FreeBSD 4.x.

Also correct.

 It seems to me that this is kind of chicken-and-egg problem - if the
 support for vinum volumes is implemented as a module (vinum.ko),
 then you need to load this module before you can access the logical
 volume.  Hence, vinum.ko itself can't be on a vinum volume :-)

In fact, there are tricks to work around this.  I had the root file
system on a Vinum volume nearly three years ago, but there were
objections to the tricks I was using.  I'm still planning to update
things.  It's not very much work, but I haven't found the time yet.

Greg
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