Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:42:04 + RW wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:00:39 -0500 > Chris Brennan wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas > > wrote: > > > > > I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really > > > need and I can help you clean up by savi

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100 Tony Maserati wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? > And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing > X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? I guess the next time

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread David Demelier
On 09/01/2011 22:19, Tony Maserati wrote: Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Thanks.

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Monday, 10 January 2011: > > Maybe because gvim is really *much* nicer than plain console-based vim > sessions. > How can that be the case, when gvim is an X11 program? I've used both -- give me good old console-based vim any day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:00:39 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: > > > I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really > > need and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as > > 'binary packages' and re-install

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chris Brennan on Monday, 10 January 2011: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: > > > I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really need > > and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as 'binary > > packages' and re-installing just

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chris Brennan
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really need > and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as 'binary > packages' and re-installing just the bits that you _really_ want to have > around. Other than

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:02:35 -0500, Ed Smith wrote: > This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like > vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar > to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. XEmacs[1] is not 'Emacs with X11 support', but a very different

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:43:13 +0100 Tony Maserati wrote: > I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing > here is installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's > fooling me into giving me something I don't need. It's not as if gvim is something separate. gvim i

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Firas Kraiem
On 10/01/11 14:02, Ed Smith wrote: > This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like > vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar > to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. Totally different thing. The emacs port install GNU Emacs; the xemacs port instal

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
> I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing here is > installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's fooling me into > giving me something I don't need. or you could just use the original vi that comes with the base system if you just want a console editor.

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 10 January 2011 15:02:35 Ed Smith wrote: > This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like > vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar > to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. Er, no. xemacs is a fork of emacs. emacs has X-related dependencie

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Ed Smith
This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. On 1/10/2011 4:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maserati wrote: Hi, I'm just

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Tony Maserati
I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing here is installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's fooling me into giving me something I don't need. Thanks. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas < keram...@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:43:13 +0100, Tony Maserati wrote: >On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas >wrote: >>On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maserati wrote: >>> I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency >>> to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maserati wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency > to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover > after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Maybe because gvim is

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-09 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tony Maserati wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to > vim? > And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after > installing > X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? > It's because of gV

Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-09 Thread Tony Maserati
Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ma