Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-11 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Wednesday, 9. November 2005 21:39, Jack L. wrote:

  I have the same setup, except I only want konsole and konqueror for file
 browsing and a terminal. I wonder if kde will ever split up those
 applications into different pieces.

Most probably never - KDE tries to make a desktop environment, not a browser 
and a terminal emulator. If there's a trend, then it's rather towards tighter 
integration instead.

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Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-10 Thread Jack L.
On 11/9/05, Frank Staals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 George Katsanos wrote:

 
 KDE is a huge package , and if you're trying to portupgrade to p3 550
 that's
 a hard thing to do.3 days now! :-(
 I just want konqueror , is there any way [or do you know the exact port]
 that will save me from installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions
 of
 kde stuff [which I hate] at my computer?
 
 Also , when I start konqueror 'kdeinit' is run also ! 3 instances of
 it.any
 way of avoiding that?
 
 
 Thanks
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 I sometimes use Konqueror when as 'explorer-clone'. And as well as you I
 didn't realy like the hell of KDE pakages on my system, so I deinstalled
 the useless KDE stuff.I think this will be the least possible packages
 running Konqueror without stripping the packages itself:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pkg_info | grep kde
 kdebase-3.4.2_2 Basic applications for the KDE system
 kdebase-kompmgr-3.4.2 Utility needed to enable XComposite support in KDE
 kdehier-1.0_8 Utility port which installs a hierarchy of shared KDE direc
 kdelibs-3.4.2_1 Base set of libraries needed by KDE programs

 That's all you need for Konqueror and the Graphical Editor I frequently
 use: KATE

 I have the same setup, except I only want konsole and konqueror for file
browsing and a terminal. I wonder if kde will ever split up those
applications into different pieces.
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KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-09 Thread George Katsanos
 
KDE is a huge package , and if you're trying to portupgrade to p3 550 that's
a hard thing to do.3 days now! :-(
I just want konqueror , is there any way [or do you know the exact port]
that will save me from installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions of
kde stuff [which I hate] at my computer?
 
Also , when I start konqueror 'kdeinit' is run also ! 3 instances of it.any
way of avoiding that?
 
 
Thanks
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Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-09 Thread Josh Tolbert
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 10:50:28AM +0200, George Katsanos wrote:
  
 KDE is a huge package , and if you're trying to portupgrade to p3 550 that's
 a hard thing to do.3 days now! :-(
 I just want konqueror , is there any way [or do you know the exact port]
 that will save me from installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions of
 kde stuff [which I hate] at my computer?
  
 Also , when I start konqueror 'kdeinit' is run also ! 3 instances of it.any
 way of avoiding that?
  
  
 Thanks

Hi George,

There used to be this browser in ports called netraider. It was Konqueror
without (most of) KDE. Netraider still required Qt, but that's better than
requiring Qt and all of KDE. Apparently netraider got removed a while back
(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/netraider/Attic/Makefile)
cause it wasn't ever updated.

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-09 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 02:50 am, George Katsanos wrote:
 is there any way [or do you know the exact port] that will save me from
 installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions of kde stuff [which I hate]
 at my computer?

No.  The reason is that Konqueror *is* KDE in a very real sense.  It has very 
little functionality on its own, but instead uses parts of other packages to 
do all its work.  Even such minor things as fetching files via HTTP are 
farmed out to KIO-slaves from other packages.

Konqueror is probably more likely than any other KDE program to have an 
enormous number of dependencies.  That's by design and not really something 
that could be stripped down.
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Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-09 Thread Frank Staals

George Katsanos wrote:



KDE is a huge package , and if you're trying to portupgrade to p3 550 that's
a hard thing to do.3 days now! :-(
I just want konqueror , is there any way [or do you know the exact port]
that will save me from installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions of
kde stuff [which I hate] at my computer?

Also , when I start konqueror 'kdeinit' is run also ! 3 instances of it.any
way of avoiding that?


Thanks
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I sometimes use Konqueror when as 'explorer-clone'. And as well as you I 
didn't realy like the hell of KDE pakages on my system, so I deinstalled 
the useless KDE stuff.I think this will be the least possible packages 
running Konqueror without stripping the packages itself:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] pkg_info | grep kde
kdebase-3.4.2_2 Basic applications for the KDE system
kdebase-kompmgr-3.4.2 Utility needed to enable XComposite support in KDE
kdehier-1.0_8 Utility port which installs a hierarchy of shared KDE direc
kdelibs-3.4.2_1 Base set of libraries needed by KDE programs

That's all you need for Konqueror and the Graphical Editor I frequently 
use: KATE


Good Luck

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Re: KDE Konqueror:Can i have konqueror without KDEstuff port

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Wednesday, 9. November 2005 09:50, George Katsanos wrote:
 KDE is a huge package , and if you're trying to portupgrade to p3 550
 that's a hard thing to do.3 days now! :-(
 I just want konqueror , is there any way [or do you know the exact port]
 that will save me from installing kde base , kde , kdelibs and zillions of
 kde stuff [which I hate] at my computer?

For konqueror, all you need is x11/kdebase3 (and its respective dependencies).

For extra features, you might also want misc/konq-plugins (will install as 
kdeaddons-konq-plugins), for some embedded media support you might want to 
install multimedia/kmplayer and for an embedded image viewer with an 
autozooming feature, you might want to install graphics/gwenview.

If you're not sure what you can safely delete (or want to make sure you don't 
miss anything you can delete), do pkg_deinstall -rf arts\* and afterwards 
portinstall kdebase. 

Once you're done with that, you can reduce the number of installed ports 
further by installing sysutils/pkg_cutleaves and use that to find ports which 
aren't in use by any other ports and delete them if you wish.

 Also , when I start konqueror 'kdeinit' is run also ! 3 instances of it.any
 way of avoiding that?

Kdeinit just wraps around the kioslave processes that Konqueror uses to do the 
actual input/output of data (kio_http, kio_ftp, kio_file, etc). You can turn 
the kdeinit wrapper off by setting KDE_FORK_SLAVES=1 in your environment 
(note that this option has known issues, like 
https://bugs.kde.org/votes.cgi?action=show_bugbug_id=88557 - I think however 
that none of them should affect you if all you run is konqueror).

Cheers,
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