Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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Hey all,

I, as well as many of you, utilize a pgp signature.  I would love to be able 
to verify them, rather than get a message that the signature is unkown.  With 
that, what's the point, right?  Is there a place we can all go, or  something 
we can all do to verify the pgp signatures of people on this list?

Just a little pet peeve.

- -- 
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:09 pm, Andy Harrison wrote:
 ~
 On 01-Oct-2003, Eric F Crist wrote message Mail-list PGP Keys
 ~

  I, as well as many of you, utilize a pgp signature.  I would love to be
  able to verify them, rather than get a message that the signature is
  unkown.  With that, what's the point, right?  Is there a place we can all
  go, or  something we can all do to verify the pgp signatures of people on
  this list?
 

How do I submit my keys?

TIA

  Just a little pet peeve.

 AFAIK, most people use http://pgp.mit.edu to submit their keys.

 ~~
 Andy Harrison
 (full headers for details)

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:

 How do I submit my keys?
 
 TIA

1) Don't middle-post

2) Read the URL provided.

   Just a little pet peeve.
 
  AFAIK, most people use http://pgp.mit.edu to submit their keys.

Kris

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:27 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Message was signed with unknown key.
 The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
 Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified.
 Use the 'Settings-Configure KMail-Security' dialog to specify the plug-in
 or ask your system administrator to do that for you.
WTF does this mean?

Message was signed with unknown key.
The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified.
Use the 'Settings-Configure KMail-Security' dialog to specify the plug-in or 
ask your system administrator to do that for you.

When I add a key from the MIT server, it usually fixes it.  This is asking for 
some other plugin I think...

We're almost there!

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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:27 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
  How do I submit my keys?
 
  TIA

 1) Don't middle-post

 2) Read the URL provided.

Just a little pet peeve.
  
   AFAIK, most people use http://pgp.mit.edu to submit their keys.

 Kris

Kris,

I downloaded your key from http://pgp.mit.edu and tried to add it.  I have pgp
5.x installed and added your key with pgpk -a k_kennaway (the file I saved)
and I still get the plugin error for kmail.

I added Andy Harrison's key, and it works fine.  Before I added his key,
however, I got a different message that read something similar to:

Message was signed with unknown key fingerprint.
The validity of the signature cannot be verified.

TIA for all your help!
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
 
 I downloaded your key from http://pgp.mit.edu and tried to add it.  I have pgp
 5.x installed and added your key with pgpk -a k_kennaway (the file I saved)
 and I still get the plugin error for kmail.

gpg (which is what I use) has a couple of very useful options, such as:

keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

which will attempt to retreive any unknown keys from the mit.edu
keyserver.  I've a feeling that this is a gpg specific feature, but
check your PGP documentation.

Cheers,

Matthew

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PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:50 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
  I downloaded your key from http://pgp.mit.edu and tried to add it.  I
  have pgp 5.x installed and added your key with pgpk -a k_kennaway (the
  file I saved) and I still get the plugin error for kmail.

 gpg (which is what I use) has a couple of very useful options, such as:

 keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

 which will attempt to retreive any unknown keys from the mit.edu
 keyserver.  I've a feeling that this is a gpg specific feature, but
 check your PGP documentation.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

I don't see a port in /usr/ports/security for gpg.  I see gpgme, but that just 
sounds like an interface.  Do I need to install from source at www.gpg.org or 
something similar?

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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Andy Harrison
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~
On 01-Oct-2003, Eric F Crist wrote message Re: Mail-list PGP Keys
~
 How do I submit my keys?


Here's something I whipped up to do it for me.  You'll have to change the pgp
command line to suit your version.



#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
#
# pgpkeysubmit.pl
#
# by Andy Harrison xx
#
# Automatically submit my public key
#
# Usage: pgpkeysubmit.pl [ascii-armored public key file]
#
# $Id$
#

use strict;
use LWP::UserAgent;
use HTTP::Request::Common;

my $pubkeyfile = defined($ARGV[0])  -f $ARGV[0] ? 
$ARGV[0] : $ENV{'HOME'}/.pgp/andy.pgp ;

unlink $pubkeyfile;
print qx( pgp -kx ajharrison $pubkeyfile );
open PUB,$pubkeyfile || die  $! \n;

my $pubkey;
foreach ( PUB ) {
$pubkey .= $_;
}
my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new;
my $response = $ua-request( POST http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/add;, 
[
# Enter ASCII-armored PGP key here: 
keytext = $pubkey, 
],
Referer = http://pgp.mit.edu;
);
print $response-{'_content'};


~~ 
Andy Harrison
(full headers for details)


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Andy Harrison
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~
On 01-Oct-2003, Eric F Crist wrote message Re: Mail-list PGP Keys
~
 I don't see a port in /usr/ports/security for gpg.  I see gpgme, but that
 just 
 sounds like an interface.  Do I need to install from source at www.gpg.org or
 something similar?


Port:   gnupg-1.2.3_1
Path:   /usr/ports/security/gnupg
Info:   The GNU Privacy Guard
Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Index:  security
B-deps: expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 gmake-3.80_1 libiconv-1.9.1_1
R-deps: expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 libiconv-1.9.1_1


~~ 
Andy Harrison
(full headers for details)


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 02:05 pm, Andy Harrison wrote:
 ~
 On 01-Oct-2003, Eric F Crist wrote message Re: Mail-list PGP Keys
 ~

  I don't see a port in /usr/ports/security for gpg.  I see gpgme, but that
  just
  sounds like an interface.  Do I need to install from source at
  www.gpg.org or something similar?

 Port:   gnupg-1.2.3_1
 Path:   /usr/ports/security/gnupg
 Info:   The GNU Privacy Guard
 Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Index:  security
 B-deps: expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 gmake-3.80_1 libiconv-1.9.1_1
 R-deps: expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 libiconv-1.9.1_1


 ~~
 Andy Harrison
 (full headers for details)

Does this fix the mime/plugin error in Kmail?  That's what Im really looking
to do now.

TIA
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:01:56PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:50 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
   I downloaded your key from http://pgp.mit.edu and tried to add it.  I
   have pgp 5.x installed and added your key with pgpk -a k_kennaway (the
   file I saved) and I still get the plugin error for kmail.
 
  gpg (which is what I use) has a couple of very useful options, such as:
 
  keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
  keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve
 
  which will attempt to retreive any unknown keys from the mit.edu
  keyserver.  I've a feeling that this is a gpg specific feature, but
  check your PGP documentation.
 
 I don't see a port in /usr/ports/security for gpg.  I see gpgme, but that just 
 sounds like an interface.  Do I need to install from source at www.gpg.org or 
 something similar?

security/gnupg

Cheers,

Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
  Savill Way
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-10-01T19:04:46Z, Andy Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here's something I whipped up to do it for me.  You'll have to change the
 pgp command line to suit your version.

Erm, wouldn't:

   gpg --send-key mykeyid

be easier?
-- 
Kirk Strauser

94 outdated ports on the box,
 94 outdated ports.
 Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done,
 82 outdated ports on the box.


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday 01 October 2003 02:18 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:01:56PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
  On Wednesday 01 October 2003 01:50 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote:
   On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
I downloaded your key from http://pgp.mit.edu and tried to add it.  I
have pgp 5.x installed and added your key with pgpk -a k_kennaway
(the file I saved) and I still get the plugin error for kmail.
  
   gpg (which is what I use) has a couple of very useful options, such as:
  
   keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
   keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve
  
   which will attempt to retreive any unknown keys from the mit.edu
   keyserver.  I've a feeling that this is a gpg specific feature, but
   check your PGP documentation.
 
  I don't see a port in /usr/ports/security for gpg.  I see gpgme, but that
  just sounds like an interface.  Do I need to install from source at
  www.gpg.org or something similar?

 security/gnupg

   Cheers,

   Matthew

Ok, great,

Where do I enter the keyserver options so they happen everytime?

TIA.
- -- 
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Andy Harrison
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~
On 01-Oct-2003, Kirk Strauser wrote message Re: Mail-list PGP Keys
~
 Erm, wouldn't:
 
gpg --send-key mykeyid
 
 be easier?

Were I a gpg user, I'm sure it would.



~~ 
Andy Harrison
(full headers for details)


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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 02:43 pm, Andy Harrison wrote:
 ~
 On 01-Oct-2003, Kirk Strauser wrote message Re: Mail-list PGP Keys
 ~

  Erm, wouldn't:
 
 gpg --send-key mykeyid
 
  be easier?

 Were I a gpg user, I'm sure it would.



 ~~
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Thanks Andy and Ken for all your help.   I did some research and found a 
solution to all you folks that use Winblows and pgp, which is the funny 
Mime/plugin error I've been talking about.  Here is where I found the 
solution, for anyone who's been here and is having my problems:

http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html

HTH and Thanks a bunch!
- -- 
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Mark Woodson
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 12:08 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
 Does this fix the mime/plugin error in Kmail?  That's what Im
 really looking to do now.

You need to configure KDE and Kmail to recognize the gpg plugin.

http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php

This has the info you need.

- -Mark
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:47 pm, Mark Woodson wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 12:08 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
  Does this fix the mime/plugin error in Kmail?  That's what Im
  really looking to do now.

 You need to configure KDE and Kmail to recognize the gpg plugin.

 http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php

 This has the info you need.

 -Mark

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Wow, going through a lot to get this MIME stuff working.  Maybe someone can 
help me with this.

I had 'Keep passphrase in memory' enabled when I went through the instructions 
on http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php and everything seemed to 
work fine as far as reading emails you people send with a  MIME pgp key.  
However, I am not able to sign or encrypt anymore becase it's not giving me a 
way to input my passphrase.

TIA
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 04:33 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:47 pm, Mark Woodson wrote:
  On Wednesday 01 October 2003 12:08 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
   Does this fix the mime/plugin error in Kmail?  That's what Im
   really looking to do now.
 
  You need to configure KDE and Kmail to recognize the gpg plugin.
 
  http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php
 
  This has the info you need.
 
  -Mark
 
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 Wow, going through a lot to get this MIME stuff working.  Maybe someone can
 help me with this.

 I had 'Keep passphrase in memory' enabled when I went through the
 instructions on http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php and
 everything seemed to work fine as far as reading emails you people send
 with a  MIME pgp key. However, I am not able to sign or encrypt anymore
 becase it's not giving me a way to input my passphrase.

 TIA

Sorry, more info.

I figured out that the use-agent option is a passphrase agent.  I'm just not 
sure how to pass the passphrase to the agent.  GRR.

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Mark Woodson
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 02:33 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:47 pm, Mark Woodson wrote:
  On Wednesday 01 October 2003 12:08 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
   Does this fix the mime/plugin error in Kmail?  That's what Im
   really looking to do now.
 
  You need to configure KDE and Kmail to recognize the gpg plugin.
 
  http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php
 
  This has the info you need.

 Wow, going through a lot to get this MIME stuff working.  Maybe
 someone can help me with this.

Yes, unfortunately it's not all that user friendly a process.  Though 
it's still relatively easy.

 I had 'Keep passphrase in memory' enabled when I went through the
 instructions on http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php
 and everything seemed to work fine as far as reading emails you
 people send with a  MIME pgp key. However, I am not able to sign or
 encrypt anymore becase it's not giving me a way to input my
 passphrase.

I've found that signing requires changing it from OpenPGP (plugin) 
to inline OPenPGP (built-in). 

- -Mark
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 04:42 pm, Mark Woodson wrote:
::snip::

 
  Wow, going through a lot to get this MIME stuff working.  Maybe
  someone can help me with this.

 Yes, unfortunately it's not all that user friendly a process.  Though
 it's still relatively easy.

  I had 'Keep passphrase in memory' enabled when I went through the
  instructions on http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/aegypten-kmail.php
  and everything seemed to work fine as far as reading emails you
  people send with a  MIME pgp key. However, I am not able to sign or
  encrypt anymore becase it's not giving me a way to input my
  passphrase.

 I've found that signing requires changing it from OpenPGP (plugin)
 to inline OPenPGP (built-in).

 -Mark

I can't even do that, Mark.  I get the same error each time:

The Message Could Not Be Signed
The Crypto-Plugin /usr/local/lib/cryptplug/gpgme-openpgp.so
reported the following details:

#19: No Passphrase

Your configuration could be invalid or the Plug-in damaged.

Please contact your systems administrator.

TIA
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RE: Mail-list PGP Keys SOLVED!!!!!!

2003-10-01 Thread Eric F Crist
Hey all,

Thanks for putting in your time.  I finally got everything working the way 
it's supposed to.  I forgot to add the ./.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf file with a 
pinentry program.  DOH!

I can now sign and encrypt, as well as verify and decrypt all MIME and 
standard pgp messages.

My only, final question to the group is related to signature trust.  Should I, 
upon recieving a new signature change its trust level to unconditional?  I 
would like messages that are verified to appear green in Kmail and anything 
below a level 5 is listed as untrusted, so shows yellow.

Thanks again to all the help this group provides.
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys SOLVED!!!!!!

2003-10-01 Thread Mark Woodson
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:11 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
 Hey all,

 Thanks for putting in your time.  I finally got everything working
 the way it's supposed to.  I forgot to add the
 ./.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf file with a pinentry program.  DOH!

 I can now sign and encrypt, as well as verify and decrypt all MIME
 and standard pgp messages.

 My only, final question to the group is related to signature trust.
  Should I, upon recieving a new signature change its trust level to
 unconditional?  I would like messages that are verified to appear
 green in Kmail and anything below a level 5 is listed as untrusted,
 so shows yellow.

The idea with trust is that you do so as minimally as possible.  The 
only person you should trust unconditionally is yourself.  There's a 
great deal of literature on the subject out there I'd suggest doing a 
bit of reading.

- -Mark

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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys SOLVED!!!!!!

2003-10-01 Thread Kevin Stevens


On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Mark Woodson wrote:

 The idea with trust is that you do so as minimally as possible.  The
 only person you should trust unconditionally is yourself.  There's a
 great deal of literature on the subject out there I'd suggest doing a
 bit of reading.

 - -Mark

Don't listen to him!  ;)

KeS
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Re: Mail-list PGP Keys

2003-10-01 Thread Paul Murphy
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:27:29 -0700
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
 
  How do I submit my keys?
  
  TIA
 
 1) Don't middle-post
 
 2) Read the URL provided.
 
Just a little pet peeve.
  
   AFAIK, most people use http://pgp.mit.edu to submit their keys.
 
 Kris

 FWIW, have you checked _your_ pgp key lately, I always get:

BAD signature from Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aka Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aka Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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