RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports.

2005-01-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julien Gabel
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:39 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports.
 
 
  Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
  on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
  ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
  install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
  the CDROMS in the first place.
 
  Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in 
 ports.tar.gz for at
  least RELEASES.
 
 Included or not, the release is self contained (and don't require an
 internet in that case) since the INDEX or INDEX-5 file can always be
 generated from the local ports tree, via :
   # cd /usr/ports; make index
 

So can many of the utilities - like perl and X - that are now
supplied as binaries.

I guess you want to go back to the 386BSD days when you had
to build all those things yourself.  I think you deserve to have
your FreeBSD taken away for a month and be forced to run Solaris
2.5.1.  That will teach you to smart off about being able to generate
things.  How would you like a Sendmail upgrade to take 2
hours, eh?  Or let's see even better - how about bootstrapping
a usable version of gcc on a SunOS box?  Been there, done that.
We don't want to go back to those days.  There's a reason that
precompiled and pregenerated stuff is included in the UNIX
distributions.

Neither Disk 1's require KDE or GNOME to be generated from the
sources, either.


Ted
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:51 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Michael C. Shultz
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:34:46AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
  INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
  previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
  have required a really severe space
  crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.
 
 It was probably just forgotten.  Talk to the release engineers.
 

Yes, that is my feeling as well.  Glad to see your not using some
silly justification to explain that it was deliberately left out. :-)

My intent on the initial post was to find out if others were seeing
the same thing.  Since they are, it's time to e-mail the release
people.  Unfortunately, though, from the looks of the docs coming
out of them, there's little interest in the release team on the 4.xx
line anymore so this is probably an exercise in futility.

Unfortunately the disappointing thing is that the 3.X release had
the same kind of thing happen.  The very last 3.X release of FreeBSD
had several broken things - notably ESDI support, bad144 no longer
worked, even when a few revs earlier it was working fine.  Now
we are seeing the same thing with 4.11 - a niggly problem that
marrs the normally perfect release.  I am concerned that if something
like INDEX was forgotten, that there's going to be other things
forgotten as well.  Sigh.  We really must learn when to quit on these
release trains.  4.10 was a perfect cap on a successful 4.x run.

Ted
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports.

2005-01-29 Thread Julien Gabel
 Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
 on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
 ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
 install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
 the CDROMS in the first place.

 Included or not, the release is self contained (and don't require an
 internet in that case) since the INDEX or INDEX-5 file can always be
 generated from the local ports tree, via :
   # cd /usr/ports; make index

 So can many of the utilities - like perl and X - that are now
 supplied as binaries.

Not self-contained on the disk1.

I said 'make index', not 'make fetchindex'.  The case of packages
themselves are another thing, i think.  I tend to think that this
file was forgotten during the release's process (but i don't know),
i just want to point the fact that it can be self-generated without
a network connection.  Nothing more.

 I guess you want to go back to the 386BSD days when you had
 to build all those things yourself.  I think you deserve to have
 your FreeBSD taken away for a month and be forced to run Solaris
 2.5.1.  That will teach you to smart off about being able to generate
 things.  How would you like a Sendmail upgrade to take 2
 hours, eh?  Or let's see even better - how about bootstrapping
 a usable version of gcc on a SunOS box?  Been there, done that.
 We don't want to go back to those days.  There's a reason that
 precompiled and pregenerated stuff is included in the UNIX
 distributions.

 Neither Disk 1's require KDE or GNOME to be generated from the
 sources, either.

Nothing wrong here, however that was not my point in this post.

-- 
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports


 On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
   Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
  
   On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
   
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is
a P75, unfortunately)
   
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
  
   If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
   cd /usr/ports
   make fetchindex
  
   The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
   :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
  rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 

 You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
 many months
 it has been removed from ports.


Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?

Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.

INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports could
be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is static,
not dynamic.

Please note the following:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html

Now, notice down there:

Final package build starts

Note any ACTUAL date?

Obviously whomever was supposed to do the ports stuff for the release
didn't follow the procedure exactly correctly, they probably cvsupped
the ports at the last minute and forgot to fetch the INDEX, same as
they forgot to update the release schedule.

Ted

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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is
a P75, unfortunately)
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
:).
Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
rest of the ports directories were copied from.
You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
many months
it has been removed from ports.
Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.
INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports could
be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is static,
not dynamic.
Please note the following:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for at 
least RELEASES.

Michael
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
 On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
  Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Hi All,
 
Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
  /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
  went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this
  is a P75, unfortunately)
 
Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
  If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
 
  The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
 
  :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
  the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 
  You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
  many months
  it has been removed from ports.
 
  Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
 
  Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
  on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
  ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
  install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
  the CDROMS in the first place.
 
  INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
  it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports
  could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is
  static, not dynamic.
 
  Please note the following:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html

 Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for
 at least RELEASES.

 Michael

Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the space 
for something else?

-Mike
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this
is a P75, unfortunately)
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
:).
Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
many months
it has been removed from ports.
Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.
INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports
could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is
static, not dynamic.
Please note the following:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for
at least RELEASES.
Michael
Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the space
for something else?
yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially 
people who
are using a slower computer.


-Mike
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:53 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
 On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
  On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
  Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Hi All,
 
Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
  /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the
  machine went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX
  file.  (this is a P75, unfortunately)
 
Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
  If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
 
  The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating
  it
 
  :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
  the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 
  You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
  many months
  it has been removed from ports.
 
  Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
 
  Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
  on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
  ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a
  complete install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering
  to release the CDROMS in the first place.
 
  INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense
  generating it for a ports tree that's open for committing since
  new ports could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on
  the CDROM is static, not dynamic.
 
  Please note the following:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
 
  Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz
  for at least RELEASES.
 
  Michael
 
  Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the
  space for something else?

 yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially
 people who
 are using a slower computer.

I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is a 
problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the CD?

-Mike
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
 Shultz
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:16 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports


 
  yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially
  people who
  are using a slower computer.
 
 I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is a
 problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the CD?


INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
have required a really severe space
crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

Now, lets's see here:

Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 KDE is 647MB
Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 Gnome is 576MB

The INDEX file is 6MB

A cdrom holds 660-700MB of data

And I won't even go into the thousands of dollars of network costs
involved in fetching a 6Mb index file over the Internet for everyone
that could have been included on the CD.

Ted


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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 03:34 am, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
  Shultz
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:16 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
   yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people.
   Especially people who
   are using a slower computer.
 
  I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is
  a problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the
  CD?

 INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
 previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
 have required a really severe space
 crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

 Now, lets's see here:

 Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 KDE is 647MB
 Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 Gnome is 576MB

 The INDEX file is 6MB

 A cdrom holds 660-700MB of data

 And I won't even go into the thousands of dollars of network costs
 involved in fetching a 6Mb index file over the Internet for everyone
 that could have been included on the CD.

 Ted

I'm out of excuses after seeing the numbers you posted. 

-Mike
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:34:46AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
 previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
 have required a really severe space
 crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

It was probably just forgotten.  Talk to the release engineers.

Kris


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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports.

2005-01-28 Thread Julien Gabel
 Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
 on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
 ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
 install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
 the CDROMS in the first place.

 Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for at
 least RELEASES.

Included or not, the release is self contained (and don't require an
internet in that case) since the INDEX or INDEX-5 file can always be
generated from the local ports tree, via :
  # cd /usr/ports; make index

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Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi All,

  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in /usr/ports
typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine went away for
a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is a P75, unfortunately)

  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the 4.11-RELEASE
ports directory?

Ted

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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Michael Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2005, at 2:00 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in /usr/ports
typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine went away for
a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is a P75, 
unfortunately)

  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the 4.11-RELEASE
ports directory?
it was removed a few months ago, use 'make fetchindex'
Ted
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:02 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports


Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
 4.11-RELEASE
  ports directory?

 it was removed a few months ago, use 'make fetchindex'


Thanks, I had thought it might have been because I installed the ports
afterwards rather than during the install, and a script bit it somewhere.

Probably this should go into the README file in the ports dir.

Ted

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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Hi All,

   Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
 /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine went
 away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is a P75,
 unfortunately)

   Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
 4.11-RELEASE ports directory?


If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to 
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex

The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it :).

Kent

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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent Stewart
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
 
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Hi All,
 
Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
  /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine went
  away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is a P75,
  unfortunately)
 
Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
 
 If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to 
 cd /usr/ports
 make fetchindex
 
 The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it :).
 

Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
rest of the ports directories were copied from.

Ted
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
  Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   Hi All,
  
 Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
   /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
   went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is
   a P75, unfortunately)
  
 Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
   4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
  If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
 
  The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
  :).

 Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
 rest of the ports directories were copied from.


You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how many months 
it has been removed from ports.

Kent

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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 11:07:33PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:02 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
 
 Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE
   ports directory?
 
  it was removed a few months ago, use 'make fetchindex'
 
 
 Thanks, I had thought it might have been because I installed the ports
 afterwards rather than during the install, and a script bit it somewhere.
 
 Probably this should go into the README file in the ports dir.

It's already in the UPDATING file.

Kris

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