RE: Need to build a new mail server

2008-06-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:06 PM To: DAve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server This freebsd-questions thread is approaching a low

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Foo JH
I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement.

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Eric Zimmerman
Foo JH wrote: I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( heres some interesting reading about qmail... http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html ___

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Oliver Fromme
Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Outback Dingo
Postfix rules, Dovecot or cyrus, though dovecot seems more managable my take running an ISP based mail system Postfix Definately Qmail, its ok, in most cases scenerios Exim - No way and Dovecot or Cyrus for imaps/imap On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread DAve
Eric Zimmerman wrote: Foo JH wrote: I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x release of a software package you are

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread cpghost
On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:56 -0400 N.J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-29 13:35:27-0400]: I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. A third vote for Postfix +

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Vince Hoffman
As a sysadmin at a medium mailhosting ISP (~15,000 email customers, averaging about 5 email addresses per customer,) we use a load balanced cluster of Dovecot and exim servers with mysql backend. Theres no way we could use qmail, it just doesnt have the flexibility even with 1/2 a dozen

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On May 30, 2008, at 10:39 AM, DAve wrote: That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is still amazes me. Is it still the case that qmail does not reject mail during SMTP transaction, but instead will do an accept and then later bounce? If this is still true,

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 30 May 2008 18:09:48 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: exim: If I were setting up a large complicated installation for say an ISP or a mail hosting system, exim is what I would use. I've heard people say that they didn't understand the configuration file, but I don't see what the problem is.

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Bob Johnson
On 5/30/08, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Zimmerman wrote: Foo JH wrote: I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Procacci
Bob Johnson wrote: On 5/30/08, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Zimmerman wrote: Foo JH wrote: I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( List them, not 100, not 399, all 400

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Bertrand
I'd personally vouch for Qmail myself. So would I, for my environment. Having been an administrator now for mail servers in general for nearly 15 years, with experience with most notable mailers, Qmail by far lends itself to be the most highly configurable mailer assuming you know what you

RE: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Catalin Miclaus
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Procacci Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:21 PM To: Bob Johnson Cc: DAve; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server Bob Johnson wrote: On 5/30/08, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Procacci
Catalin Miclaus wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Procacci Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:21 PM To: Bob Johnson Cc: DAve; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server Bob Johnson wrote: On 5/30

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 04:09:25PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: I agree. No one should use Qmail unless they have read and completely understand every email-related RFC and have at least two years of experience running a commercial mail server. Amateurs shouldn't even consider it. I used

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Zimmerman wrote: heres some interesting reading about qmail... http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is still amazes me. It is one

Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick Baldwin
Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail servers. I'm interested in both

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread prad
On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:35:27 -0400 Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. i like postfix with dovecot. (we do imap for about half-a-dozen users.) both are simple,

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Eric Zimmerman
Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail servers.

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread N.J. Thomas
* Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-29 13:35:27-0400]: I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. A third vote for Postfix + Dovecot here. Thomas -- N.J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:50 PM, N.J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-29 13:35:27-0400]: I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. A third vote for Postfix + Dovecot

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. Given that, a FreeBSD system

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:21 -0400, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread David Duong
Patrick Baldwin wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail servers.

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Sahil Tandon
Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. FreeBSD == good choice. :) However, it's been some

Re: Need to build a new mail server

2008-05-29 Thread Doug Hardie
On May 29, 2008, at 16:55, Sahil Tandon wrote: Patrick Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. I am