Re: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
Alan Mackenzie wrote: I'm not sure I prefer the alternative, something like Ubuntu or PCLinux, where you just shut your eyes, lie back and think of South Africa, not knowing quite what's getting installed on your PC. Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: That's not a very nice comment to do. Please, keep your feelings about continents/countries/Linux distributions out of here. Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I really detest the politically correct, particularly the uneducated politically correct. lie back and think of England - From _Dictionary of Catchphrases_ (1995) by Nigel Rees: close your eyes and think of England: traditional advice given to women when confronted with the inevitability of sexual intercourse, or jocular encouragement to either sex about doing anything unpalatable. South Africa is a tourism spot and boasts a number of popular game preserves, it is -the- most advanced and developed country in Africa. As a German it is understandable that he would have vacationed there, he made a rather clever twist on the standard phrase. I think it was a reference to the fact that Canonical's founder is South African, and that Ubuntu got its name from an African word meaning something like you are who you are, because of others, or something like that. I also thought it was a clever twist. Svein Halvor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 04:46:49PM +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: [ ] That's not a very nice comment to do. Please, keep your feelings about continents/countries/Linux distributions out of here. Sorry for causing offence. It wasn't intended. I'll be more careful about what I write in the future. HTH, Nikos -- Alan Mackenzie (Ittersbach, Germany). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikos Vassiliadis I'm not sure I prefer the alternative, something like Ubuntu or PCLinux, where you just shut your eyes, lie back and think of South Africa, not knowing quite what's getting installed on your PC. That's not a very nice comment to do. Please, keep your feelings about continents/countries/Linux distributions out of here. I really detest the politically correct, particularly the uneducated politically correct. lie back and think of England - From _Dictionary of Catchphrases_ (1995) by Nigel Rees: close your eyes and think of England: traditional advice given to women when confronted with the inevitability of sexual intercourse, or jocular encouragement to either sex about doing anything unpalatable. South Africa is a tourism spot and boasts a number of popular game preserves, it is -the- most advanced and developed country in Africa. As a German it is understandable that he would have vacationed there, he made a rather clever twist on the standard phrase. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:20:29 + Alan Mackenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, FreeBSD! I'm a long time GNU/Linux user, and I'm considering changing over to FreeBSD. Why? To escape the upgrade tread-mill. Every time a new Debian release comes out, I say Oh no, not again!, scarcely looking forward to the weeks of pain getting it to work properly. I'm not sure I prefer the alternative, something like Ubuntu or PCLinux, where you just shut your eyes, lie back and think of South Africa, not knowing quite what's getting installed on your PC. And finding the usable nuggets of information in the vast swathes of Linux documentation scattered diffusely over the Internet isn't fun either. Anyway, back to the point! I do most of my work in Linux on virtual console screens, which are set up at 128x48 characters courtesy of the framebuffer thing in the Linux kernel. Previously, I had used SVGATextMode, which did much the same. I just don't much like GUIs, since they are cluttered up with toolbars, dialog boxes, scrollbars, wine bars, start bars, crowbars, , and tend to steal key sequences which I want to belong to applications. I haven't found any like facility in 6.2, so far: I downloaded the documentation last night (the CD image 6.2-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso) and had a general browse through it (the English version). It's nicely written, but I didn't find what I was looking for. Then I grepped through it with find . -name *.txt | xargs grep '[1-9][0-9]*x[1-9][0-9]*' without finding anything helpful. 80x60 isn't enough! Is it possible I've missed something relevant? Or is there some sort of add-on utility which would give me consoles with (approximately) 128x48? My hardware is a desktop PC with a 1.2 GHz Athlon and a Matrox G400 AGP video card. Thanks in advance for the help! Hi Alan, That was the first question I asked myself, too :) Everything about this and many other things such as how to stay up to date are explained in the handbook, you may want to read it. For virtual consoles resolution you can check this manual page : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=vidcontrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Is it possible I've missed something relevant? Or is there some sort of add-on utility which would give me consoles with (approximately) 128x48? vidcontrol(1) -- it's part of the base system. My hardware is a desktop PC with a 1.2 GHz Athlon and a Matrox G400 AGP video card. Should work fine. You may need to 'kldload vga' (see vga(4) and syscons(4)) to get some of the higher res modes, or even build yourself a customized kernel. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsd3s8Mjk52CukIwRCCnCAJ9q+X6hj2+cAu8ZVydns7FXJ0hOlQCeKTu9 CV+HXuBQHVMWtIAc/6QTtE0= =6WpA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2. Can I get 128x48 (or similar) console screens?
On Thursday 02 August 2007 15:20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, FreeBSD! I'm a long time GNU/Linux user, and I'm considering changing over to FreeBSD. Why? To escape the upgrade tread-mill. Every time a new Debian release comes out, I say Oh no, not again!, scarcely looking forward to the weeks of pain getting it to work properly. You may have the very same problems using FreeBSD. I'm not sure I prefer the alternative, something like Ubuntu or PCLinux, where you just shut your eyes, lie back and think of South Africa, not knowing quite what's getting installed on your PC. That's not a very nice comment to do. Please, keep your feelings about continents/countries/Linux distributions out of here. And finding the usable nuggets of information in the vast swathes of Linux documentation scattered diffusely over the Internet isn't fun either. That's a problem you won't have with FreeBSD. Anyway, back to the point! I do most of my work in Linux on virtual console screens, which are set up at 128x48 characters courtesy of the framebuffer thing in the Linux kernel. Previously, I had used SVGATextMode, which did much the same. I just don't much like GUIs, since they are cluttered up with toolbars, dialog boxes, scrollbars, wine bars, start bars, crowbars, , and tend to steal key sequences which I want to belong to applications. There are dozens of window managers you can choose from. Not all of them have bells and whistles. You could try ion wm, which is a very minimal window manager. I haven't found any like facility in 6.2, so far: I downloaded the documentation last night (the CD image 6.2-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso) and had a general browse through it (the English version). It's nicely written, but I didn't find what I was looking for. Then I grepped through it with find . -name *.txt | xargs grep '[1-9][0-9]*x[1-9][0-9]*' without finding anything helpful. 80x60 isn't enough! Is it possible I've missed something relevant? Or is there some sort of add-on utility which would give me consoles with (approximately) 128x48? You'll probably have to build the kernel yourself. Read vidcontrol manual page. It boils down to this: You have to add VESA support and raster text mode support to your kernel. Read this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=366057 Keep in mind that the above guide, recommends upgrading. You don't have to upgrade, just build your kernel with what is needed. HTH, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
