Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:00:45PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23:25PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 
   instant-workstation is not included on cd#1.  As stated, there isn't
   enough space for everything.
  
  Instant-workstation itself is tiny.  It consists of dependencies and a
  few small configuration files.  It's mainly a matter of coordination
  with release engineering.
 
 The point is that including instant-workstation on the CD requires
 that the CD also include everything it depends on, which are not tiny
 and do not fit.

It depends on acroread5, bash2, cdrtools, unix2dos, emacs20, fetchmail,
gs, grip, gimp1, gv, gnupg, kde3, mkisofs, smbfs, mutt, mozilla, posfix,
xtset, xmms, xv. 

The most ports are availble on CD as package including the largest port,
kde3. The number of packages that are availble could be reason enove to
include a instant-workstation package on the CD. This would save time
looking up all the availeble packages and saves compilation time for
someone who later decides to install the remaining ports.

Availble as package on the CD rom are: acroread5, bash2, cdrtools,
emacs20, fetchmail, gv, kde3, mkisofs, mutt, mozilla, posfix, xv

Not available: unix2dos, grip, gnupg, smbfs, xtset, xmms

Unkown to me: gs

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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

 I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
 all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
 i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
 This gouies for instant-workstation

Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
be released.  See
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html

Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?

You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.

Your best bet is to install the cvsup-without-gui package:

# pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

then use cvsup to pull down the latest version of the ports tree and
install via ports.  This will have been updated since 5.1 was
released, in order to take account of updates to the dependent
packages. See:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

Then:

# cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-server
# make install

Cheers,

Matthew 


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew
Sorry your correct it is version 5.1

Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:


I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
This gouies for instant-workstation


Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
be released.  See
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html
Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?

You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.
Your best bet is to install the cvsup-without-gui package:

# pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

then use cvsup to pull down the latest version of the ports tree and
install via ports.  This will have been updated since 5.1 was
released, in order to take account of updates to the dependent
packages. See:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

Then:

# cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-server
# make install
	Cheers,

	Matthew	




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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
 Sorry your correct it is version 5.1

1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
your original posting?

2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?

Kris


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew
Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

Sorry your correct it is version 5.1


1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
your original posting?
2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?

Kris


I have been following the the examples in the book
	The Complete FreeBSD
	Greg Lehey
there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset,
then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off 
which i can not find either.
I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I  can not 
copy over file
/usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc



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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:56:06AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
 
 Sorry your correct it is version 5.1
 
 
 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
 your original posting?
 
 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?
 
 Kris
 
 
 
 I have been following the the examples in the book
   The Complete FreeBSD
   Greg Lehey
 there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset,
 then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off 
 which i can not find either.

OK, but you didn't answer the second part of my question.  Where are
you looking for these packages?

 I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I  can not 
 copy over file
 /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc

This file is not part of FreeBSD, and packages do not install into
this directory..are you sure that is the correct path?

Kris


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
 
  I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
  all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
  i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
  This gouies for instant-workstation
 
 Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
 be released.  See
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html
 
 Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?
 
 You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
 simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.

Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a
workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be
on the CDrom.


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
  
   I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
   all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
   i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
   This gouies for instant-workstation
  
  Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
  be released.  See
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html
  
  Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?
  
  You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
  simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.
 
 Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a
 workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be
 on the CDrom.

Not that I could see..

Kris


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
   On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
   
I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
This gouies for instant-workstation
   
   Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
   be released.  See
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html
   
   Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?
   
   You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
   simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.
  
  Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a
  workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be
  on the CDrom.
 
 Not that I could see..

I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit
unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a
instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install
it.

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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:12:56AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
   On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

 I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find 
 all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
 i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
 This gouies for instant-workstation

Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
be released.  See
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html

Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?

You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.
   
   Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a
   workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be
   on the CDrom.
  
  Not that I could see..
 
 I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit
 unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a
 instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install
 it.

instant-workstation is not included on cd#1.  As stated, there isn't
enough space for everything.

Kris


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 10 November 2003 at  1:17:20 +1030, Andrew wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find
 all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
 i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
 This gouies for instant-workstation

 I have been following throught book Greg Lehey The Complete FreeBSD
 can sombody help clear this up for me

Well, you could start at the top of page 94:

  It's possible that the CD set you get will not include
  instant-workstation.  That's not such a problem: you just install
  the individual ports from this list.  You can also do this if you
  don't like the list of ports.

It's difficult to coordinate the production of a book (every year or
two, by one publisher) with the distributions (every 4 months, by a
different group of people).  That's your problem here.

To install instant-workstation directly, connect to the Net and enter:

  # cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation
  # make install

Greg
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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 10 November 2003 at  9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

 Sorry your correct it is version 5.1


 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
 your original posting?

 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?

 I have been following the the examples in the book
   The Complete FreeBSD
   Greg Lehey
 there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset,
 then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off
 which i can not find either.
 I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I  can not
 copy over file
 /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc

I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc.  That's part of the
instant-workstation port.  See my previous reply.

Greg
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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:59:52AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Monday, 10 November 2003 at  9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote:
  Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:
 
  Sorry your correct it is version 5.1
 
 
  1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
  your original posting?
 
  2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?
 
  I have been following the the examples in the book
  The Complete FreeBSD
  Greg Lehey
  there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset,
  then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off
  which i can not find either.
  I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I  can not
  copy over file
  /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc
 
 I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc.  That's part of the
 instant-workstation port.  See my previous reply.

Looking at the contents of the port, IYTM /usr/local/share/dot.bashrc.

Kris


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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday,  9 November 2003 at 17:35:43 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:59:52AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Monday, 10 November 2003 at  9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

 Sorry your correct it is version 5.1


 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from
 your original posting?

 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking?

 I have been following the the examples in the book
 The Complete FreeBSD
 Greg Lehey
 there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset,
 then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off
 which i can not find either.
 I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I  can not
 copy over file
 /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc

 I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc.  That's part of the
 instant-workstation port.  See my previous reply.

 Looking at the contents of the port, IYTM /usr/local/share/dot.bashrc.

Yes, indeed, as it should be.  This is a bug in the book.  Thanks for
catching this one.

Greg
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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday,  9 November 2003 at 17:17:22 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:12:56AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote:

 I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find
 all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought.
 i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them
 This gouies for instant-workstation

 Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time.  FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to
 be released.  See
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html

 Perhaps you mean 5.1 ?

 You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's
 simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs.

 Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a
 workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be
 on the CDrom.

 Not that I could see..

 I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit
 unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a
 instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install
 it.

 instant-workstation is not included on cd#1.  As stated, there isn't
 enough space for everything.

Instant-workstation itself is tiny.  It consists of dependencies and a
few small configuration files.  It's mainly a matter of coordination
with release engineering.

Greg
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Re: Instant-workstation is missing

2003-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23:25PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

  instant-workstation is not included on cd#1.  As stated, there isn't
  enough space for everything.
 
 Instant-workstation itself is tiny.  It consists of dependencies and a
 few small configuration files.  It's mainly a matter of coordination
 with release engineering.

The point is that including instant-workstation on the CD requires
that the CD also include everything it depends on, which are not tiny
and do not fit.

Kris


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