Re: Performing installed ports upgrade / leaving some software intact
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 07:17:27AM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > Hello, > > >> 1/ backing up the hacked [mailman] files and restoring them later (but I > >> will > >> overwrite the newer files with older ones perhaps breaking something). > >> 2/ making them read only (but the end result will be the same and > >> upgrading as root I will overwrite them anyway). > > > > Keep in mind mailman is all python. There really is nothing to recompile > > after a system upgrade. (Unless you are upgrading python which you aren't). > > I am not so sure. According to > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > "All third party software will now need to be rebuilt and > re-installed. This is required as installed software may depend on > libraries which have been removed during the upgrade process. The > ports-mgmt/portupgrade command may be used to automate this process. > The following commands may be used to begin this process:" This is prefaced by: "Note: Depending on whether any libraries version numbers got bumped, there may only be two install phases instead of three." Rebuilding all the installed ports being the third phase. Since you're just going from 7.0 to 7.1 this shouldn't be the case unless specifically mentioned in /usr/src/UPDATING Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Performing installed ports upgrade / leaving some software intact
Hello, >> 1/ backing up the hacked [mailman] files and restoring them later (but I >> will >> overwrite the newer files with older ones perhaps breaking something). >> 2/ making them read only (but the end result will be the same and >> upgrading as root I will overwrite them anyway). > > Keep in mind mailman is all python. There really is nothing to recompile > after a system upgrade. (Unless you are upgrading python which you aren't). I am not so sure. According to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html "All third party software will now need to be rebuilt and re-installed. This is required as installed software may depend on libraries which have been removed during the upgrade process. The ports-mgmt/portupgrade command may be used to automate this process. The following commands may be used to begin this process:" So my thinking is that by issuing portupgrade -af both python and mailman will get reinstalled. However, the option suggested by Roland (thank you!) of touching /var/db/pkg/mailman/+IGNOREME seems very interesting. I must read more about it. Thank you all! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Performing installed ports upgrade / leaving some software intact
On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: 1/ backing up the hacked [mailman] files and restoring them later (but I will overwrite the newer files with older ones perhaps breaking something). 2/ making them read only (but the end result will be the same and upgrading as root I will overwrite them anyway). Keep in mind mailman is all python. There really is nothing to recompile after a system upgrade. (Unless you are upgrading python which you aren't). Cheers, -j ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Performing installed ports upgrade / leaving some software intact
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:03:02PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Dear all, > > I am now full into planning the 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE upgrade. I > know that at the end of the day it will also mean upgrading all ports > (portupgrade -af). Not necessarily. Upgrading all ports is only mandatory after a major version update, e.g. from 6.x to 7.x because of changed shared library versions. A point release should not affect shared library versions. Personally, I like to keep the ports on my desktop updated every other week or so, depending on if I see something interesting on freshports... > I have one port - mailman - which I have customized > a lot and do not really want to upgrade it as it will most likely mean > I will have to hack a few files again. > > What options do I have so that I do not break the setup? > > I am thinking of: > > 1/ backing up the hacked files and restoring them later (but I will > overwrite the newer files with older ones perhaps breaking something). You should merge any differences by hand instead of overwriting them. 'diff -u' is your friend there. > 2/ making them read only (but the end result will be the same and > upgrading as root I will overwrite them anyway). 'chflags schg,sunlnk ' (as root) will do the trick. Even root cannot overwrite these without removing the flags. > And that would be it. My wisdom ends here. Is there any option to > survive the ports upgrade? :) Touch /var/db/pkg/mailman/+IGNOREME. This should make both portmaster and portupgrade leave this port alone. > If not, I guess I will just have to hack Mailman files again after the > upgrade... Or see if you can get your changes comitted upstream. Maybe as OPTIONS? Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp6T2lWu2KuF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Performing installed ports upgrade / leaving some software intact
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Dear all, > > I am now full into planning the 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE upgrade. I > know that at the end of the day it will also mean upgrading all ports > (portupgrade -af). I have one port - mailman - which I have customized > a lot and do not really want to upgrade it as it will most likely mean > I will have to hack a few files again. > > What options do I have so that I do not break the setup? > > I am thinking of: > > 1/ backing up the hacked files and restoring them later (but I will > overwrite the newer files with older ones perhaps breaking something). > 2/ making them read only (but the end result will be the same and > upgrading as root I will overwrite them anyway). > > And that would be it. My wisdom ends here. Is there any option to > survive the ports upgrade? :) > > If not, I guess I will just have to hack Mailman files again after the > upgrade... Can you verify that the original copy of the files you've hacked have indeed been modified in the upgraded version? Perhaps you could download the source for both the new version in ports, and the original version, and find out exactly what, if any changes have been made to your modified files. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
