Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
I used to have issues with portupgrade as well. I traced my problem to using the wrong portupgrade. I have been using portupgrade for several months without an issue ( except the Xorg 7 transition ). Make sure to use /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade and not /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade I also follow the following port method, as per the handbook suggestion: portsnap fetch portsnap update method. This has worked without an issue for me. I am running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8. I hope this helps. - Antonio Arredondo PhD Student NMSU Computer Science Department http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~aarredon/ - On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ? (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) Regards, Uli. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
Antonio Arredondo wrote: I used to have issues with portupgrade as well. I traced my problem to using the wrong portupgrade. I have been using portupgrade for several months without an issue ( except the Xorg 7 transition ). Make sure to use /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade and not /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade I also follow the following port method, as per the handbook suggestion: portsnap fetch portsnap update method. This has worked without an issue for me. I am running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8. I hope this helps. - Antonio Arredondo PhD Student NMSU Computer Science Department http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~aarredon/ - snip All ports managment utilities have been moved to ports-mgmt quite some time ago. So if you still have a sysutils/portupgrade you should update your portstree. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /usr/ports/sysutils | grep portupgrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ? (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) Regards, Uli. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany Of course, that is my first action whenever I finish the update. Unless I missed something but I doubt it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. From /usr/ports/UPDATING: Portupgrade users: # pkgdb -Ff # portupgrade -f -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper # portupgrade -a Seems like a PEBKAC. From http://code.google.com/p/rarian/ : Rarian (formerly Spoon) is a documentation meta-data library, designed as a replacement for Scrollkeeper. Not a portupgrade issue. Best regards, Jona -- I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you are free. Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord Confusion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
Jona Joachim wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. From /usr/ports/UPDATING: Portupgrade users: # pkgdb -Ff # portupgrade -f -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper # portupgrade -a Seems like a PEBKAC. From http://code.google.com/p/rarian/ : Rarian (formerly Spoon) is a documentation meta-data library, designed as a replacement for Scrollkeeper. Not a portupgrade issue. Knowing how this will probably cause flame issues, it *could* be argued that it is a portupgrade issue and not necessarily a pebkac issue. These tools are supposed to automate upgrade and figure and sort dependency issues and such automatically as much as possible. Slowly I see more and more instances of people having to refer to UPDATING to do more manual alterations to sort issues out. Where is the line drawn between too much manual supplemental fixes and people wanting to be able to issue a couple of commands to upgrade their system without breaking something, perhaps something they rely on in a production environment? Just a thought. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ? (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) From my experience I think anyone upgrading on 8-CURRENT (and from reports perhaps 7-) will have the same issue I had this issue yesterday when upgrading Gnome on 6.2-RELEASE-p7. It's not just 7-FOO and 8-CURRENT that're affected. The solution that worked for me was this: 1. Force uninstall scrollkeeper. 2. Manually install rarian. 3. pkgdb -F to fix the stale links to scrollkeeper. 4. Restart the portupgrade process. HtH, Adam J Richardson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish ones. I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum update/upgrade. I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports - then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious. I'm unsure if there is the makings of a whole new way to update/upgrade the ports, but it's something that should be considered. Please - I know what some of you out there will say, Then why don't you do it - I'm not criticizing, simply commenting on my experiences. -- Best regards, Chris Registerd Linux user number 448639 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:38:39 -0500 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish ones. I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum update/upgrade. Of course it is, that's because someone has already done the work, equivalent to what's in UPDATING, when the packages were built. If you want to build from source you have to do it yourself. I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports - then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious. Sounds like rose-tinted glasses to me. Upgrading Gnome used to involve running an script in single-user mode, and by the admission of the authors, even that wasn't reliable. UPDATING is no more complex now than it was in the past, less so if anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. What would you like to see from ports? I mean, in the great tradition of BSD, let's work out what the problem is and write a script. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:38:39AM -0500, Chris wrote: E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish ones. That's ironic, considering I used Debian because Fedora wasn't stable enough, and switched to FreeBSD in part because even Debian wasn't stable enough. . . . and Debian itself is far more stable than the other Debian-ish distros. I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum update/upgrade. . . . except when they break something. It's a lot easier to fix broken software on FreeBSD than with a binary packaged based Linux distribution, in my (recent) experience. I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports - then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious. I've never found updating the software on a system fun. That's part of the reason I find I prefer FreeBSD: it doesn't break shit as often, and thus doesn't make it even *more* un-fun. I'm not criticizing, simply commenting on my experiences. Likewise, the above are only my experiences. I realize they are not necessarily objectively true. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Kent Beck: I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. I just didn't know it would be called Ruby. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:34:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum update/upgrade. . . . except when they break something. It's a lot easier to fix broken software on FreeBSD than with a binary packaged based Linux distribution, in my (recent) experience. I rarely see port breakage. If I do it's usually a case of PEBKAC, :-) Having said that, switching between major versions of FreeBSD can be a hassle with ports. I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports - then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious. I've never found updating the software on a system fun. That's part of the reason I find I prefer FreeBSD: it doesn't break shit as often, and thus doesn't make it even *more* un-fun. In my experience it is much easier to keep ports updated every other week or so than to to it after a couple of months. Only when switching between major versions of FreeBSD it is time for drastic measures. I usually delete and reinstall all ports after making such a switch. It is the best way to keep the amount of old cruft on the system to a minimum. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpK2OTBKccag.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ? (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) Regards, Uli. Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ? (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) From my experience I think anyone upgrading on 8-CURRENT (and from reports perhaps 7-) will have the same issue -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not Business, Friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!
On 10/27/07, E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those
ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because
portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is not fun any
more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or it
fails all together. I have forgotten the last time I updated my ports
without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they
install files on the same directory. Go figure. Those were the days
when it used to work.
From /usrp/ports/UPDATING:
20071024:
AFFECTS: All GNOME users and ports depend on gnomehier
AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNOME has been updated to 2.20.1. All ports that depend on gnomehier have
had their DATADIR moved from share/gnome/ to share/ (e.g.
${LOCALBASE}/share/gnome/ to ${LOCALBASE}/share/).
This puts the FreeBSD GNOME ports more in line with the default
GNOME installation hierarchy. To find the specific directories that
have changed, see misc/gnomehier/files/dirlist. To upgrade your
installed ports, you will need to use either sysutils/portupgrade or
sysutils/portmaster.
Portupgrade users:
# pkgdb -Ff
# portupgrade -f -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper
# portupgrade -a
Portmaster users:
# portmaster -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper
# portmaster -a
If some of icons, applets, themes or other customized items have
disappered from your desktop in this upgrade, you will need to
remove and re-add these items to make them appear again due to the
DATADIR change.
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