Re: total newbee questions

2004-03-24 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:34:36AM -0400, kennon ward wrote:
 To All;
 
 I just created the disk for FreeBSD and got my other laptop to boot up
 under FreeBSD.  I need some help in accessing the hard drive and the
 cdrom.  I tried to create a directory for the CDROM and the hdd1.
 Then tried to mount using those directories.  It did not access my
 hard drive or the cdrom.  The question is what do I need to do to gain
 access to these two drives?
 
 Also does anyone out there have the source code and makefile for vi?
 That is the editor I have used on other Unix systems.  You may have
 guessed that I was not a root super user :-)
 
 Thanks to all for your help.
 
 Regards
 Kenn Ward
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can you give some specific examples, like the actual commands you are
issuing and the actual error?  Are your disks being detected at boot?
You can check for them by greping the output of dmesg like so:

# dmesg | egrep ^ad|acd

Also, you reference your disk as hdd1, which is the Linux nomenclature
for secondary slave partition 1.  In FreeBSD it would be ad3s1 and
your CDROM would be acd(N), depending on it actual physical location.

Nathan
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Re: total newbee questions

2004-03-24 Thread Kevin Kinsey
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:34:36AM -0400, kennon ward wrote:
 To All;
 
 I just created the disk for FreeBSD and got my other laptop to boot up 
under FreeBSD.  I need some help in accessing the hard drive and the cdrom.  I 
tried to create a directory for the CDROM and the hdd1.  Then tried to mount 
using those directories.  It did not access my hard drive or the cdrom.  
The question is what do I need to do to gain access to these two drives?
 
 Also does anyone out there have the source code and makefile for vi?  
That is the editor I have used on other Unix systems.  You may have guessed that I 
was not a root super user :-)


Assuming you get your hard drive situation fixed up, you shouldn't
need anything else to run vi(1).  It's installed by default in
/usr/bin, so my guess is that if you get your /usr partition
available to the system, you'll be fine.  If all you've got available
is /, then I feel your pain, for ed(1) and red(1) are somewhat
like kicking dead whales down the beach compared to something
more modern... :-)

Like someone else wrote, send us the output of mount
and a description of how you're attempting to mount your
filesystems, the relevant parts of your dmesg, etc.
 
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: total newbee questions

2004-03-24 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If all you've got available
 is /, then I feel your pain, for ed(1) and red(1) are somewhat
 like kicking dead whales down the beach compared to something
 more modern... :-)

You can avoid that pain without making / much bigger by installing the
editors/e3 port and moving /usr/local/bin/e3* to /bin/.  You'll get
fair vi, emacs, pico, wordstar, and nedit emulators, all in
less than 13000 bytes.

I'm sure ed(1) will be with us 'till the end, but I wish e3 was also
included in the base i386 FreeBSD.  Or even a bigger (but small) vi
editor clone that would work on all CPUs.  There are several that seem
negligibly small compared to much of the other stuff I see in /*bin/.
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Re: total newbee questions

2004-03-24 Thread Kevin Kinsey
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:17:45AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You can avoid that pain without making / much bigger by installing the
 editors/e3 port and moving /usr/local/bin/e3* to /bin/.  You'll get
 fair vi, emacs, pico, wordstar, and nedit emulators, all in
 less than 13000 bytes.
 
 I'm sure ed(1) will be with us 'till the end, but I wish e3 was also
 included in the base i386 FreeBSD.  Or even a bigger (but small) vi
 editor clone that would work on all CPUs.  There are several that seem
 negligibly small compared to much of the other stuff I see in /*bin/.

That does sound nice.  However, I don't suppose it'll be done,
for either licensing or historical reasons.  [But who am I to 
say, of course ;-) --- I guess nothing stops me from doing
it myself ]  That's quite a bit smaller even than
ee, or even ed!

I may try e3 ... thanks for the pointer, or I may make it 
SOP to cp ee(1) to /bin when setting up boxes in the 
future; I do recall once upon a time being stranded
with nothing but ed(1) on a disk that was pretty screwed
up

Kevin Kinsey
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