Signal 11's all over the place.

2003-08-26 Thread readpunk
Signal 11's from different programs and near complete instability usually
means a fan/heatsink issue, correct?

FreeBSD 4.8-release
Athlon 2400 XP+
1 gigabyte of RAM

Is anything else really necessary? Occasionally right after a reboot when
I run top the thing crashes (the machine is remote) when it does get a
little spat of stability for whatever reason it seems to allocate ram fine
and run properly. Thanks to anyone who reads this.

Nick.

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Re: Signal 11's all over the place.

2003-08-26 Thread Peter Elsner
Signal 11's almost always lead to a memory problem... bad chip for example.

Peter Elsner

At 05:10 AM 8/26/2003 +, you wrote:
Signal 11's from different programs and near complete instability usually
means a fan/heatsink issue, correct?
FreeBSD 4.8-release
Athlon 2400 XP+
1 gigabyte of RAM
Is anything else really necessary? Occasionally right after a reboot when
I run top the thing crashes (the machine is remote) when it does get a
little spat of stability for whatever reason it seems to allocate ram fine
and run properly. Thanks to anyone who reads this.
Nick.

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Re: Signal 11's all over the place.

2003-08-26 Thread readpunk
That is what I believe is happening, which is why I suspect the cpu and
not memory. If I do anything that stresses the server (raises the cpu%
even when the server is reporting more than enough ram) it will just
completely lock and sometimes reboot on it's own. I mention the sig. 11's
because I am seeing them in the logs httpd/perl/hlds/top etc. The box has
locked up while _only_ running memtest, ha ha. I suppose I need to take
out each dimm and really stress the box. If it does well with one and not
the other I suppose my answer is found, if not then it has to be the cpu.
Thanks for the help all.

Nick

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:53:45 +0100
 From: Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Signal 11's all over the place.

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:10:20AM +, readpunk wrote:
  Signal 11's from different programs and near complete instability usually
  means a fan/heatsink issue, correct?
 
  FreeBSD 4.8-release
  Athlon 2400 XP+
  1 gigabyte of RAM
 
  Is anything else really necessary? Occasionally right after a reboot when
  I run top the thing crashes (the machine is remote) when it does get a
  little spat of stability for whatever reason it seems to allocate ram fine
  and run properly. Thanks to anyone who reads this.

 It might be overheating -- but that generally results in the system
 simply freezing up when the CPU thermal cutout engages.  Instinct
 tells me that seeing a lot of Sig 11's like you are could very well be
 due to duff memory -- it's not impossible for the memory sticks to
 overheat but more likely they've just developed a bad spot.

 If you have console access to the machine, try running a memtest86
 floppy (http://www.memtest86.com/) for a few repetitions (or get the
 NOC people at your hosting center to do it for you) That will take
 most of a day probably.  Note that when memtest86 does find a problem
 then it's almost always genuine, but some subtle problems can elude
 it, so getting the all clear from it doesn't completely discount
 problems with the memory.

 Otherwise, try pulling out each half of the memory sticks in turn and
 see if that can isolate the fault.  However, that won't help you if
 the problem is within the CPU, unless you can lay your hands on a
 known good spare to swap in and test with.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

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