User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Ray Seals
I have 15 FreeBSD machines on my network (soon to be around 30) and want
to synch all the machines userid and passwords.  Is NIS still the
primary way to do this or is there a better solution?
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Re: User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Moran
Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have 15 FreeBSD machines on my network (soon to be around 30) and want
 to synch all the machines userid and passwords.  Is NIS still the
 primary way to do this or is there a better solution?

As far as I understand it, yes.  Although Kerberos seems to be a practical
alternative.  With 5.x, there is more support for pam, thus opening up
your choices to things like LDAP.

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Re: User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 22 July 2004 13:23, Bill Moran wrote:
 Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have 15 FreeBSD machines on my network (soon to be around 30) and
  want to synch all the machines userid and passwords.  Is NIS still the
  primary way to do this or is there a better solution?

 As far as I understand it, yes.  Although Kerberos seems to be a
 practical alternative.  With 5.x, there is more support for pam, thus
 opening up your choices to things like LDAP.

Note that Kerberos only provides AAA and not directory services.

I recently (within the last 6 months) replaced my old NIS setup with one 
based on OpenLDAP.  It works perfectly across my FreeBSD, Linux, and Mac OS 
X machines.  NIS did the job, but I won't be rolling it out on new systems 
ever again.
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Re: User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Moran
Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 22 July 2004 13:23, Bill Moran wrote:
  Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I have 15 FreeBSD machines on my network (soon to be around 30) and
   want to synch all the machines userid and passwords.  Is NIS still the
   primary way to do this or is there a better solution?
 
  As far as I understand it, yes.  Although Kerberos seems to be a
  practical alternative.  With 5.x, there is more support for pam, thus
  opening up your choices to things like LDAP.
 
 Note that Kerberos only provides AAA and not directory services.
 
 I recently (within the last 6 months) replaced my old NIS setup with one 
 based on OpenLDAP.  It works perfectly across my FreeBSD, Linux, and Mac OS 
 X machines.  NIS did the job, but I won't be rolling it out on new systems 
 ever again.

Were you able to make this work well with 4.x machines?  It's been a while
since I tried, but I had problems with nss turning UIDs back into names.

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Re: User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:46:57PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:

 Were you able to make this work well with 4.x machines?  It's been a while
 since I tried, but I had problems with nss turning UIDs back into names.

This would still be a problem, because there is no support for nss_ldap in
FreeBSD 4.x. To get LDAP working with 4.x, you would need a workaround that
translates user information into NIS or something that creates user-entries
in the local passwd file.

Support for nss_ldap/nsswitch.conf is available in FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE or
newer.

cu,
Uwe

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Re: User Accounts across multiple machines

2004-07-22 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:23:36PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have 15 FreeBSD machines on my network (soon to be around 30) and want
  to synch all the machines userid and passwords.  Is NIS still the
  primary way to do this or is there a better solution?
 
 As far as I understand it, yes.  Although Kerberos seems to be a practical
 alternative.  With 5.x, there is more support for pam, thus opening up
 your choices to things like LDAP.

I use NIS (for meta-data) in combination with Kerberos (for
authentication), with the NIS service run over a special VLAN with IPsec
transport mode in place. This covers the security problems in the design
of NIS that I'm familair with, uses only tools found in the base FreeBSD
install, works across Unix-like platforms (and versions, such as 4.X vs
5.X), and provides other benefits such as single sign-on.

-T


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