Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

  On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
  One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
  but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
  something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
  - shall I do a port upgrade?
 
  Thanks
 
  This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
  has the
  steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
 
 
 
  I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
  shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
  top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
  after that?
 
  Thanks
 
  I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
  again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like
 
  (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
  (II) Module ddc already built-in
  (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found
  X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
 
  Please help!!!

 This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2 says if startx
 does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and then test that with

Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

 If your Xorg is  7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the defaults selected
 and your video card, you may need to edit your screen section. Xorg 7 did not
 work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is manual and required. My screen section:

 Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Card0
 MonitorMonitor0
 #   DefaultDepth 16
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 1
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 4
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 8
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 15
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 16
 Modes 1280x1024
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 24
 Modes 1280x1024
 EndSubSection
 EndSection



I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:08:59AM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

 On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
   On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
   again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like
  
   (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
   (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
   (II) Module ddc already built-in
   (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
   (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
  
   Fatal server error:
   no screens found
   X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
  
   Please help!!!
 
  This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2
  says if startx does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and
  then test that with
 
 Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
 
  If your Xorg is  7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the
  defaults selected and your video card, you may need to edit your
  screen section. Xorg 7 did not work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is
  manual and required. My screen section: 

 
  Section Screen
  Identifier Screen0
  Device Card0
  MonitorMonitor0
  #   DefaultDepth 16
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 1
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 4
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 8
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 15
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 16
  Modes 1280x1024
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 24
  Modes 1280x1024
  EndSubSection
  EndSection
 
 
 
 I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
 test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
 port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
 what version do I have?
 
 What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?

Check that you have xf86-video-i810 installed:

$ pkg_info | grep i810

If not, install it.

Try:

# Xorg -configure

again.

Then:

# X -config xorg.conf.new

If it doesn't work, post xorg.conf.new to this list.


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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread doug

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?


[cut]


(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module ddc already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)


[cut x config stuff]


I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?


 1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
 2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
 3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
 4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system

You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line 
wrapping.



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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

  On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
  On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
  One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
  but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
  something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
  - shall I do a port upgrade?

 [cut]

  (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
  (II) Module ddc already built-in
  (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found
  X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

 [cut x config stuff]

  I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
  test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
  port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
  what version do I have?
 
  What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?

  1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
  2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
  3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
  4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system

 You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
 'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
 wrapping.


Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg


xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org


The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below


Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  GLcore
Load  xtrap
Load  dri
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
#Option DefaultRefresh# [bool]
#Option ModeSetClearScreen# [bool]
Identifier  Card0
Driver  vesa
VendorName  Intel Corporation
BoardName   Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:



Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the Xorg -configure and tried
again, and still doesnt work. Please help 


startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
to use xfce4 that was started with the command starxfce4 but i ended
up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
root prompt:

#pkg_add -r gnome2

i think that is what i used.

here is a webpage for gnome:

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/

have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
it.  really easy.  for the ports system

http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
like (as root)

#cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app

and then

#make install clean

the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
kewl thing called portsnap that updates the ports directories

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portsnapapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASEformat=html




Thanks
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, KAYVEN RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
 
  Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
  chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
  ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the Xorg -configure and tried
  again, and still doesnt work. Please help 

 startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
 to use xfce4 that was started with the command starxfce4 but i ended
 up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
 plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
 root prompt:

 #pkg_add -r gnome2

 i think that is what i used.

 here is a webpage for gnome:

 http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/

 have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
 and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
 out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
 it.  really easy.  for the ports system

 http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

 you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
 like (as root)

 #cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app

 and then

 #make install clean

 the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
 kewl thing called portsnap that updates the ports directories


Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
problems?

I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
if I dont get xorg to work.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, KAYVEN RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:



Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the Xorg -configure and tried
again, and still doesnt work. Please help 


startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
to use xfce4 that was started with the command starxfce4 but i ended
up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
root prompt:

#pkg_add -r gnome2

i think that is what i used.

here is a webpage for gnome:

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/

have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
it.  really easy.  for the ports system

http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
like (as root)

#cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app

and then

#make install clean

the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
kewl thing called portsnap that updates the ports directories



Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
problems?


the pkg_add utility worries about alll that nonsense for you.
just try it.



I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
if I dont get xorg to work.



that's true, but xorg i think you don't necessarily have to worry
about.  the pkg_add command will be thinking for a looongg loonngg
time.  go see a movie while it is chugging away.



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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread doug

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?


[cut]


(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module ddc already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)


[cut x config stuff]


I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?


 1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
 2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
 3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
 4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system

You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
wrapping.



Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg


xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts 
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts

xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org


The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below


Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  GLcore
Load  xtrap
Load  dri
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
   ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option ShadowFB # [bool]
   #Option DefaultRefresh   # [bool]
   #Option ModeSetClearScreen   # [bool]
Identifier  Card0
Driver  vesa
VendorName  Intel Corporation
BoardName   Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
  

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:16:31PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

[...]
 Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
 to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
 problems?
 
 I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
 if I dont get xorg to work.

What you are doing is correct. You do need to get XOrg working first,
and startx is the easiest way to test it. There is no point
building/downloading the big list of GNOME2 packages until you get
XOrg working.

Cheers.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:59:09PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

 On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
snip
 
 (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
 (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
 (II) Module ddc already built-in
 (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
 
  [cut x config stuff]
 
   I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
   test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
   port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
   what version do I have?
  
   What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
 
   1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
   2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
   3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
   4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system
 
  You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
  'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
  wrapping.
 
 
 Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg
 
 
 xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
 xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
 xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
 xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
 xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
 xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
 xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
 xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
 xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
 xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
 xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
 xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
 xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org

Looks like you've got everything, from a glance.

 
 
 The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below
 
 
 Section ServerLayout
   Identifier X.org Configured
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection
 
 Section Files
   RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
   ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 EndSection
 
 Section Module
   Load  extmod
   Load  record
   Load  dbe
   Load  glx
   Load  GLcore
   Load  xtrap
   Load  dri
   Load  freetype
   Load  type1
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
 EndSection

You'll need to edit the above if you're using a non-US keyboard.
E.g:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option XkbRules   xfree86
Option XkbModel pc102
Option XkbLayout gb
EndSection

If you tell us which country your keyboard is for, we could provide
more help. 

I think you want:

Option XkbModel pc101

for a laptop.

 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   VendorName   Monitor Vendor
   ModelNameMonitor Model
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
 ### Available Driver options are:-
 ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
 ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
 ### [arg]: arg optional
 #Option ShadowFB# [bool]
 #Option DefaultRefresh  # [bool]
 #Option ModeSetClearScreen  # [bool]
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  vesa
   VendorName  Intel Corporation
   BoardName   Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
   BusID   PCI:0:2:0
 EndSection

Bad news. i810 doesn't support your graphics chip yet and you have to use
crappy old vesa. 

 
 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0

Add here:

DefaultColorDepth 24

   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:59:09PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
  On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  
 snip
  
  (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
  (II) Module ddc already built-in
  (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found
  X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
  
   [cut x config stuff]
  
I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?
   
What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
  
1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system
  
   You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
   'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
   wrapping.
  
 
  Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg
 
 
  xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
  xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
  xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
  xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
  xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
  xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
  xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
  xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
  xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
  xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
  xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
  xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
  xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
  xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
  xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
  xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
  xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org

 Looks like you've got everything, from a glance.

 
 
  The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below
 
 
  Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
  EndSection
 
  Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
  EndSection
 
  Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  GLcore
Load  xtrap
Load  dri
Load  freetype
Load  type1
  EndSection
 
  Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
  EndSection

 You'll need to edit the above if you're using a non-US keyboard.
 E.g:

 Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option XkbRules   xfree86
Option XkbModel pc102
Option XkbLayout gb
 EndSection

 If you tell us which country your keyboard is for, we could provide
 more help.

 I think you want:

Option XkbModel pc101

 for a laptop.

 
  Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
  EndSection
 
  Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
  EndSection
 
  Section Device
  ### Available Driver options are:-
  ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
  ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
  ### [arg]: arg optional
  #Option ShadowFB# [bool]
  #Option DefaultRefresh  # [bool]
  #Option ModeSetClearScreen  # [bool]
Identifier  Card0
Driver  vesa
VendorName  Intel Corporation
BoardName   Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
  EndSection

 Bad news. i810 doesn't support your graphics chip yet and you have to use
 crappy old vesa.

 
  Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0

 Add here:

DefaultColorDepth 24

SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
 

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

[...]
 (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
 Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
 New driver is i810

The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
the intel driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
one first.

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

 [...]
  (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
  Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
  New driver is i810

 The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
 the intel driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
 will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
 one first.

 Cheers.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:51:11PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
  [...]
   (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
   Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
   New driver is i810
 
  The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
  the intel driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
  will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
  one first.
...
 
 How do I do this? what do I change? Thanks

There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
was to:

# pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
# cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
# make rmconfig
# make config
[untick i180 and tick intel]
# portupgrade -f xorg-drivers

After which, X on my laptop started behaving as it should.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:51:11PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  
   [...]
(--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
New driver is i810
  
   The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
   the intel driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
   will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
   one first.
 ...
  
  How do I do this? what do I change? Thanks

 There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
 was to:

# pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
# cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
# make rmconfig
# make config
[untick i180 and tick intel]
# portupgrade -f xorg-drivers

 After which, X on my laptop started behaving as it should.
 --
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Jonathan

I followed your instructions but still doesnt work.

Now, all this is really disappointing. Would you suggest I reinstall
FreeBSD 6.3? Perhaps I reinstall it without choosing Xorg during
sysinstall and then install it later through package or port?

If you think this wont make a difference, then I am prepared to just
leave it as it is for now I think.

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 11:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
  There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
  was to:
 
 # pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
 # make rmconfig
 # make config
 [untick i180 and tick intel]
 # portupgrade -f xorg-drivers
 
...
 Jonathan
 
 I followed your instructions but still doesnt work.
 
 Now, all this is really disappointing. Would you suggest I reinstall
 FreeBSD 6.3? Perhaps I reinstall it without choosing Xorg during
 sysinstall and then install it later through package or port?

A reinstallation of 6.3 wouldn't really solve anything, as your
problem isn't with the base system; it's with XOrg. Could you repost
the results of your latest /var/log/XOrg.log with the new intel
video driver? You may have to submit its contents to XOrg for a better
diagnosis.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Oleksandr Rudyk wrote:


During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR overwrite
Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.


Have you reported this yet? It might not be too late to fix it in
7.0-RELEASE.

Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me, but because I had tried the
other trick I mentioned (the one described in the link), manually
installing the FreeBSD boot manager fixed everything and gave me
dual-boot.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Gerard
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:01 -0500
Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 1. With fdisk write down the exact parameters of your FreeBSD and
 vista parition s(start/end/size)
 2. Nuke all your partitions (vista insists on it)
 3. Install vista (set the size equal to your vista partion [note it
 *MUST* be the first partition on the first boot device])
 4. Download and install ezbcd on vista
 5. Use the rescue CD to create the freebsd partition again
 6. Reboot in vista and use ezbcd to create the correct boot records.

#3 is not technically correct in regards to Vista; however, it cannot
hurt to follow that advice anyway. There are several papers written on
it. Google for them if you need further assistance.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR
overwrite Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.



Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me,



Using straight fdisk from the command line should avoid this.


No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?

If I'm not mistaken, you don't get the emergency holographic shell
until you commit, at which point disk partitioning has already been
done.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, Alphons Fonz van Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wojciech Puchar wrote:

  No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
  actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?

  you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.

 Ah, ok.

 Not a logical choice for a fresh install though...

 Alphons (still at war with vidcontrol)

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OK, wanted to thank you all fo your helkp, and just finally, repeat
the steps (just to clarify amongst all this discussion). This is what
I did

1) started with an empty disk, and used the Vista recovery CD to put
the Vista image onto the laptop
2) then installed freebsd (6.3) from CD and left MBR untouched
3) on restart, was only seeing FreeBSD, so used fdisk to makr the
Vista partition active
4) finally booted up with Vista and then used easyBCD to add the
FreeBSD partition entry to the boot record (its call it NeoLinux for
some reason - could I change it to call it FreeBSD? Not that it
matters so much)
5) finally rebooted to have a choice between FreeBSD and Vista - tried
both and they both work fine!

Thank you again all!

One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Wojciech Puchar wrote:


No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?



you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.


Ah, ok.

Not a logical choice for a fresh install though...

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?

If I'm not mistaken, you don't get the emergency holographic shell
until you commit, at which point disk partitioning has already been
done.


you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.


actually - i don't use sysinstall at all. it's easier to boot livecd, and 
bsdlabel+newfs+mount+decompress files+bsdlabel -B+edit fstab manually


at least for me
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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Alphons Fonz van Werven wrote:
 Oleksandr Rudyk wrote:

 During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR
 overwrite Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.

 Have you reported this yet? It might not be too late to fix it in
 7.0-RELEASE.

 Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me, but because I had tried
 the other trick I mentioned (the one described in the link),
 manually installing the FreeBSD boot manager fixed everything and
 gave me dual-boot.

 Alphons

Using straight fdisk from the command line should avoid this.

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Kimi
On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
   One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
   but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
   something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
   - shall I do a port upgrade?
  
   Thanks
 
  This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
  has the
  steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
 
 

 I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
 shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
 top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
 after that?


or better still, if you can tel us the error message we can help much
better, other wise all we can do is second guess and redirect you to
the handbook which should solved most of your problems, also looking
back in the mailing list archives might give you a solution to


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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

  One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
  but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
  something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
  - shall I do a port upgrade?
 
  Thanks

 This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has 
 the
 steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html



I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
after that?

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Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread doug

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

Thanks


This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has the 
steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 
   One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
   but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
   something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
   - shall I do a port upgrade?
  
   Thanks
 
  This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
  has the
  steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
 
 

 I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
 shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
 top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
 after that?

 Thanks

I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like

(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module ddc already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

Please help!!!

Thanks
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread doug

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried startx
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for Windows X during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

Thanks


This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has the
steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html




I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
after that?

Thanks


I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like

(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module ddc already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

Please help!!!


This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2 says if startx 
does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and then test that with


   Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

If your Xorg is  7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the defaults selected 
and your video card, you may need to edit your screen section. Xorg 7 did not 
work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is manual and required. My screen section:


Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
#   DefaultDepth 16
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 I have got a machine which came with Vista pre-installed. Now I
 would like to install FreeBSD on it, and so that I can dual boot
 between the two.

 The machine did come with a rescue CD which has an image of Vista
 on it. I tried installing FreeBSD (Vista was already installed),
 but then got a problem with the boot loader I think. I could boot
 to FreeBSD fine, but couldnt to Vista. So I have reimaged the
 machine with Vista now.

 How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has
 done this already please?

Here is the procedure I used:

1. With fdisk write down the exact parameters of your FreeBSD and
vista parition s(start/end/size)
2. Nuke all your partitions (vista insists on it)
3. Install vista (set the size equal to your vista partion [note it
*MUST* be the first partition on the first boot device])
4. Download and install ezbcd on vista
5. Use the rescue CD to create the freebsd partition again
6. Reboot in vista and use ezbcd to create the correct boot records.

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Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Siraj Shaikh
I have got a machine which came with Vista pre-installed. Now I would
like to install FreeBSD on it, and so that I can dual boot between the
two.

The machine did come with a rescue CD which has an image of Vista on
it. I tried installing FreeBSD (Vista was already installed), but then
got a problem with the boot loader I think. I could boot to FreeBSD
fine, but couldnt to Vista. So I have reimaged the machine with Vista
now.

How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
this already please?

Thanks
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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Siraj Shaikh wrote:


How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
this already please?


I had the exact same problem just a few days ago and two solutions were
quickly posted here:

1: http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/FreeBSD_%26_Windows_Vista

2: When installing FreeBSD and you are asked what boot manager to install
   select to not install anything. In this way your Vista boot will not be
   affected. If after this you find that at startup you are not given ANY
   choice but FreeBSD starts automatically, this is simply because it's
   partition is marked active. Boot with a CD like Norton Partition Magic
   or GParted and mark the Vista partition active. Boot Vista, then
   download and install the EasyBCD from http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
   It is then trivial to add a stanza to Vista bootloader (!) to boot
   FreeBSD.

Hth,

Alphons

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Oleksandr Rudyk
I have installed FBSD 7.0 RC1 several weeks ago on my Dell XPS laptop with
Vista.

During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR overwrite
Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.
Then I booted with Vista rescue CD and restore Vista MBR sector. So I got
Vista again but no FBSD.
The last step was to install EasyBSD and add record for my FBSD partition.
After reboot I got Vista Loader menu with Windows and FreeBSD loader
options.

Hope this helps

2008/1/28, Alphons Fonz van Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Siraj Shaikh wrote:

  How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
  this already please?

 I had the exact same problem just a few days ago and two solutions were
 quickly posted here:

 1: http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/FreeBSD_%26_Windows_Vista

 2: When installing FreeBSD and you are asked what boot manager to install
 select to not install anything. In this way your Vista boot will not
 be
 affected. If after this you find that at startup you are not given ANY
 choice but FreeBSD starts automatically, this is simply because it's
 partition is marked active. Boot with a CD like Norton Partition Magic
 or GParted and mark the Vista partition active. Boot Vista, then
 download and install the EasyBCD from http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
 It is then trivial to add a stanza to Vista bootloader (!) to boot
 FreeBSD.

 Hth,

 Alphons

 --
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