Re: Which one of these two is the correct version?

2009-04-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM, barbara barbara.xxx1...@libero.it wrote:

  On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:27 PM, barbara barbara.xxx1...@libero.it
 wrote:
 
Hello FreeBSD Gnome users,
   
I have been a KDE user because gnome installation/upgrade presents
 such a
pain to me most of the time. Today I decided to upgrade gnome from
 2.24
   --
2.26 but decided to visit the gnome pages first to see what is said.
 This
   is
after looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING and not seeing much to do with
 this
particular upgrade.
   
Now, there are two pages, and both of them seem upto date, but they
   have
conflicting information:
   
1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2 - says that
 *NOTE: Do
   notrun
portupgrade(1) to upgrade to GNOME 2.26!**
   *and goes on to say one should use the gnome-upgrade.sh script,
 which
seems to NOT exist in the links.
2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2 - says you
 should
   use
the following steps:
(a) pkgdb -Ff
(Remove gnome-volume-manager.)
(b) portupgrade -aOW
(c) portupgrade -f gnome-media gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-control-center
   
So I am just wondering which one is the correct version, since both
 are
talking about the upgrade to 2.26.
   
   
  
  
1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2
2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2
  
   Can you see the number between faq and .html? ;)
 
 
  Barbara,
 
  Does that number, whether I see it or not, matter at all?
  Both cases are talking about *upgrade to 2.26*, unless I also got blind
 to
  the issue that mattered to me.
 
 

 Ok, sorry, you're right! I should have take a look at the pages, shame on
 me.
 I don't know why in the first one is reported 2.26 as in fact it seems the
 procedure to upgrade to 2.12. Maybe some parts are dynamically (but wrongly)
 generated.


I thought so too.



 Anyway the correct procedure is described in the 2nd link.
 Sorry again and good luck for the upgrade!


Thanks. It's what I am using, since the upgrade script seems to have been
obsoleted.




 Cheers
 Barbara

 P.S.
 Where did you find the 1st link?


G00gle - FreeBSD gnome upgrade :-)




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Which one of these two is the correct version?

2009-04-15 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello FreeBSD Gnome users,

I have been a KDE user because gnome installation/upgrade presents such a
pain to me most of the time. Today I decided to upgrade gnome from 2.24 --
2.26 but decided to visit the gnome pages first to see what is said. This is
after looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING and not seeing much to do with this
particular upgrade.

Now, there are two pages, and both of them seem upto date, but they have
conflicting information:

1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2 - says that *NOTE: Do notrun
portupgrade(1) to upgrade to GNOME 2.26!**
   *and goes on to say one should use the gnome-upgrade.sh script, which
seems to NOT exist in the links.
2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2 - says you should use
the following steps:
(a) pkgdb -Ff
(Remove gnome-volume-manager.)
(b) portupgrade -aOW
(c) portupgrade -f gnome-media gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-control-center

So I am just wondering which one is the correct version, since both are
talking about the upgrade to 2.26.


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Nairobi,KE
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Re: Which one of these two is the correct version?

2009-04-15 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:27 PM, barbara barbara.xxx1...@libero.it wrote:

  Hello FreeBSD Gnome users,
 
  I have been a KDE user because gnome installation/upgrade presents such a
  pain to me most of the time. Today I decided to upgrade gnome from 2.24
 --
  2.26 but decided to visit the gnome pages first to see what is said. This
 is
  after looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING and not seeing much to do with this
  particular upgrade.
 
  Now, there are two pages, and both of them seem upto date, but they
 have
  conflicting information:
 
  1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2 - says that *NOTE: Do
 notrun
  portupgrade(1) to upgrade to GNOME 2.26!**
 *and goes on to say one should use the gnome-upgrade.sh script, which
  seems to NOT exist in the links.
  2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2 - says you should
 use
  the following steps:
  (a) pkgdb -Ff
  (Remove gnome-volume-manager.)
  (b) portupgrade -aOW
  (c) portupgrade -f gnome-media gnome-settings-daemon
  gnome-control-center
 
  So I am just wondering which one is the correct version, since both are
  talking about the upgrade to 2.26.
 
 


  1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2
  2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2

 Can you see the number between faq and .html? ;)


Barbara,

Does that number, whether I see it or not, matter at all?
Both cases are talking about *upgrade to 2.26*, unless I also got blind to
the issue that mattered to me.


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Re: Which one of these two is the correct version?

2009-04-15 Thread barbara
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:27 PM, barbara barbara.xxx1...@libero.it wrote:

   Hello FreeBSD Gnome users,
  
   I have been a KDE user because gnome installation/upgrade presents such a
   pain to me most of the time. Today I decided to upgrade gnome from 2.24
  --
   2.26 but decided to visit the gnome pages first to see what is said. This
  is
   after looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING and not seeing much to do with this
   particular upgrade.
  
   Now, there are two pages, and both of them seem upto date, but they
  have
   conflicting information:
  
   1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2 - says that *NOTE: Do
  notrun
   portupgrade(1) to upgrade to GNOME 2.26!**
  *and goes on to say one should use the gnome-upgrade.sh script, which
   seems to NOT exist in the links.
   2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2 - says you should
  use
   the following steps:
   (a) pkgdb -Ff
   (Remove gnome-volume-manager.)
   (b) portupgrade -aOW
   (c) portupgrade -f gnome-media gnome-settings-daemon
   gnome-control-center
  
   So I am just wondering which one is the correct version, since both are
   talking about the upgrade to 2.26.
  
  
 
 
   1.http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq212.html#q2
   2. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q2
 
  Can you see the number between faq and .html? ;)


 Barbara,

 Does that number, whether I see it or not, matter at all?
 Both cases are talking about *upgrade to 2.26*, unless I also got blind to
 the issue that mattered to me.



Ok, sorry, you're right! I should have take a look at the pages, shame on me.
I don't know why in the first one is reported 2.26 as in fact it seems the 
procedure to upgrade to 2.12. Maybe some parts are dynamically (but wrongly) 
generated.
Anyway the correct procedure is described in the 2nd link.
Sorry again and good luck for the upgrade!

Cheers
Barbara

P.S.
Where did you find the 1st link?




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Re: Which one should I use diablo-jdk1.5.0 or jdk-1.6

2008-04-03 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don't top-post, please.

Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I want to write Java program, so I want to find which one should I
 use, to avoid situation that my code can not be compiled and run on
 another machine.

So it isn't really a question of diablo versus regular port, you're
trying to choose between java 1.5 and 1.6.  

For maximum portability, I would recommend installing both, and making
sure your code runs on both.

 On 02/04/2008, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I am not sure which version of jdk should I use, do they have the same
   functionality?
  
   I know jdk-1.6 is compiled by diablo-jdk and has no run dependency on
   diablo, but if diablo is the same as the original sun jdk, why should
   there be another one, or to say, why I need to install another one?
  
   So, any suggestions?


 If you're not writing java code yourself, the differences will
  probably be quite small.

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Re: Which one should I use diablo-jdk1.5.0 or jdk-1.6

2008-04-03 Thread Kemian Dang
On 03/04/2008, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't top-post, please.


  Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  I want to write Java program, so I want to find which one should I
   use, to avoid situation that my code can not be compiled and run on
   another machine.


 So it isn't really a question of diablo versus regular port, you're
  trying to choose between java 1.5 and 1.6.

  For maximum portability, I would recommend installing both, and making
  sure your code runs on both.


   On 02/04/2008, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 I am not sure which version of jdk should I use, do they have the same
 functionality?

 I know jdk-1.6 is compiled by diablo-jdk and has no run dependency on
 diablo, but if diablo is the same as the original sun jdk, why should
 there be another one, or to say, why I need to install another one?

 So, any suggestions?
  
  
   If you're not writing java code yourself, the differences will
probably be quite small.
  

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Thank you for the suggestion.

BTW: Nearly all the mail service provider use a default top-post reply style ...

Best wishes,
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Re: Which one should I use diablo-jdk1.5.0 or jdk-1.6

2008-04-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am not sure which version of jdk should I use, do they have the same
 functionality?

 I know jdk-1.6 is compiled by diablo-jdk and has no run dependency on
 diablo, but if diablo is the same as the original sun jdk, why should
 there be another one, or to say, why I need to install another one?

 So, any suggestions?

If you're not writing java code yourself, the differences will
probably be quite small.
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Re: Which one should I use diablo-jdk1.5.0 or jdk-1.6

2008-04-02 Thread Kemian Dang
I want to write Java program, so I want to find which one should I
use, to avoid situation that my code can not be compiled and run on
another machine.

Best wishes,
Kemian

On 02/04/2008, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I am not sure which version of jdk should I use, do they have the same
   functionality?
  
   I know jdk-1.6 is compiled by diablo-jdk and has no run dependency on
   diablo, but if diablo is the same as the original sun jdk, why should
   there be another one, or to say, why I need to install another one?
  
   So, any suggestions?


 If you're not writing java code yourself, the differences will
  probably be quite small.

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Which one should I use diablo-jdk1.5.0 or jdk-1.6

2008-04-01 Thread Kemian Dang
Dear all,

I am not sure which version of jdk should I use, do they have the same
functionality?

I know jdk-1.6 is compiled by diablo-jdk and has no run dependency on
diablo, but if diablo is the same as the original sun jdk, why should
there be another one, or to say, why I need to install another one?

So, any suggestions?

Best wishes,
Kemian
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-31 Thread perryh
 I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's 
 features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet,
 PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it
 prints slow and well under Windows.

Slow?

I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that
seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet.
It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster.  Someday I will get
around to setting it up on FreeBSD :)
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-31 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's 
features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet,

PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it
prints slow and well under Windows.



Slow?

I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that
seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet.
It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster.  Someday I will get
around to setting it up on FreeBSD :)

  
Eeeek, I wanted to write fast, but was too tired and my English got 
worse. :)


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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-30 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

David Kelly escribió:

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
  

Hello,

might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with 
laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer 
with the following requirements:


- quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
should be of good quality and be robust)

- has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
- prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
- should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows


(Just picking one answer from the bunch.)

Thanks for the help to all of you! I got so many answers, that the 
choose were still difficult. :) Many of you mentioned Samsung printers, 
thus I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's 
features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I 
haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under 
Windows.

Thanks again for the help!

Regards,

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Re: laser printer - which one? (Brother HL-2070N)

2007-05-25 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft

At Thu, 24 May 2007 it looks like Warren Block composed:


On Thu, 24 May 2007, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with 
laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with 
the following requirements:


- quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
should be of good quality and be robust)

- has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
- prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
- should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* 
maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at 
all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is 
sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.


My suggestion would be a used HP LaserJet 4050, preferably with a JetDirect 
network interface.  I've used them as network printers for FreeBSD with 
excellent results, they're built well and cheap to run. Have not tried toner 
refilling, though.


You could probably buy a color laser with mostly-empty starter toner at 
this price, but replacing supplies could cost as much or more than the 
printer.




I just purchased a Brother-2070N that works fine.  $130.oo from
Costco with a 1500 page toner cartdridge.  It has a network
interface built in too.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11037212whse=BCtopnav=browse=

Shit... it's $40.oo cheaper this week than it was two weeks ago when
I bought mine!

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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-25 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:49:17PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2007, David Kelly wrote:
 
 Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP  
 4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother  
 HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been  
 the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother.
 
 I haven't found any printer that really works well with envelopes
 (unless you count some Pitney Bowes printers that are designed
 specifically for printing high volumes of flyers, envelopes and
 brochures).

An original Apple Stylewriter 1200 was exceptional at envelopes. The
printer most closely resembled the wringer on my grandmother's classic
Maytag washer when I was a kid. Straight path, no bend, printer was
about 3 thick.

Have been feeding about 1500 envelopes per year between a pair of HP-990
and HP-970 inkjets. The older 970 is faster but doesn't fully release
the envelope on eject and will wad it up if one doesn't pull it out
before the next starts. The 990 often pauses before starting, then
spends extra time with optical sensors looking for page edges. And about
half the time pulls a #10 envelope thru cocked at an angle. I use them
anyway.

Recently the 990 feed screwed up to the point it was not usable. Took it
out to the garage and blew it out with compressed air. Didn't find any
smoking guns so I didn't have much hope, but that did the trick.

 Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above  
 is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been  
 designing lasers lately.
 
 I have an HP Photosmart 7360 that I like, largely because I don't use it
 very much, and it's designed so that it can through long periods of
 inactivity without clogging the nozzles.

In the HP print driver there is an option deep in the settings for
black only. The default setting mixes color with black to print text.
Black text looks awful if the color cartridge is empty, but perfectly
good if you select the black only option. One thing I'm not happy
about is that the printer flat out won't work without a color cartridge,
no matter that I'm only printing black. Had an empty color cartridge go
bad and the printer quit. Since then I've collected empties from friends
to keep around so that the printer will still run if it decides the
color cartridge must be replaced again.

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laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

Hello,

might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with 
laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer 
with the following requirements:


- quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
should be of good quality and be robust)

- has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
- prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
- should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* 
maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important 
at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is 
sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.


Thanks for the replies in advance,
Gabor
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Rob

Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer 
with the following requirements:


I have an HP LaserJet 1200 at home that I've been *very* pleased with.  It is out 
of production, but used ones are inexpensive ( $100 USD) and the 1300 is 
nearly identical.  They're widely available on ebay.

It has a real CPU (ie, not windoze controlled) with 8MB memory, native 
postscript, PCL 5, and PCL 6 at 15 pages/min and a 1/2 ream paper tray.  Only possible 
drawback is it's USB.  New toner carts' are $50 - $70 and yield 4000 - 6500 pages for me.  
The wife  I have run over 30K pages through it in 4 years, no problems.

Beware of the newer HP personal sized lasers -- many are windoze only.

 -RW
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
  Hello,
 
  might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with 
  laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with 
  the following requirements:
 
  - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
  should be of good quality and be robust)

I've had good experiences with HP laserjets. 

  - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
  - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important

Most laserprinters are 300 dpi these days. Good enough.

  - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

Get a printer that understands postscript. That works everwhere.
 
  As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* 
  maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at 
  all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is 
  sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.

You can get a _new_ Color LaserJet 2605 for around € 300. 

I've seen used LaserJet 6L (B/W) printers for as little €25.

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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
 Hello,
 
 might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with 
 laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer 
 with the following requirements:
 
 - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
 should be of good quality and be robust)
 - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
 - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
 - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

About 14 months ago and 10,000 pages I bought a Brother HL-5250DN at
Staples for $250. That seems to still be the going price. Have no
regrets. Prints both sides, ethernet and USB interfaces, rated 30 ppm
and prints faster than any printer we have at work. Postscript-3 clone
and PCL-6.

Works perfectly from MacOS and FreeBSD, altho I almost never use it from
FreeBSD and can't really say I've given it a FreeBSD workout.

As an early adopter it took a while for aftermarket refills to hit the
market but the rated 7,000 page refill is under $20. Only difference I
have noticed is the smell, and its only different, not better, not
worse.

Am a little concerned about the cost of replacing the drum, rated for
25,000 pages. Going rates for Bother toner + Brother drum is almost the
same as a new HL-5250DN printer. With any luck the resurfaced drum
companies will be ramped up by the time I need one.

No point in running an envelope thru this printer, it wrinkles.

Shortly after making my purchase some were running a special including
an optional paper tray which would hold a full ream. The special bundled
all that at the same $250 I paid. Have not seen that extra tray offered
since.

 As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as
 *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more
 important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount
 of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.

If you are concerned about refill prices then I would expect color would
be out of the question as operating costs are higher even when printing
BW.

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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Peter Giessel
On Thursday, May 24, 2007, at 09:58AM, Gabor Kovesdan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
- quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it 
should be of good quality and be robust)
- has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*

I've found that the price per page doesn't vary that much between
printers.  Some, but not that much.  Its more a matter of how long
you can go between replacing the toner.

- prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
- should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

I've used by Xerox a lot under MacOSX, FreeBSD (using CUPS mostly)
and printed maybe 5 pages from Windows...  It definitely works
with FreeBSD.

As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* 
maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important 
at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is 
sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.

I have a Phaser 6300.  Xerox includes the .PDD file to make CUPS
recognize all its features.  Its priced a bit high for your requirements
but a Phaser 6180 might be something you are interested in.
http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-6180/enus.html
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 24 May 2007, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser 
printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the 
following requirements:


- quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should 
be of good quality and be robust)

- has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply*
- prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important
- should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows

As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* 
maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at 
all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is 
sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too.


My suggestion would be a used HP LaserJet 4050, preferably with a 
JetDirect network interface.  I've used them as network printers for 
FreeBSD with excellent results, they're built well and cheap to run. 
Have not tried toner refilling, though.


You could probably buy a color laser with mostly-empty starter toner 
at this price, but replacing supplies could cost as much or more than 
the printer.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread David Kelly


On May 24, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Roland Smith wrote:


I've had good experiences with HP laserjets.


Me too. But in my opinion HP now makes Good LaserJets, and Cheap  
LaserJets. Take your pick, they don't make exceptional LaserJets and  
sell them cheap.


Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP  
4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother  
HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been  
the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother.


Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above  
is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been  
designing lasers lately.


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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-24 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, May 24, 2007, David Kelly wrote:

On May 24, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Roland Smith wrote:

I've had good experiences with HP laserjets.

Me too. But in my opinion HP now makes Good LaserJets, and Cheap  
LaserJets. Take your pick, they don't make exceptional LaserJets and  
sell them cheap.

I've been using an HP 4M+ with duplex since November 1995, and can't
complain.  Their quality may have slipped since then.

Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP  
4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother  
HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been  
the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother.

I haven't found any printer that really works well with envelopes (unless
you count some Pitney Bowes printers that are designed specifically for
printing high volumes of flyers, envelopes and brochures).

Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above  
is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been  
designing lasers lately.

I have an HP Photosmart 7360 that I like, largely because I don't use it
very much, and it's designed so that it can through long periods of
inactivity without clogging the nozzles.

Bill
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Re: Which one?

2006-12-09 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Todd McNutt wrote:

I am hoping to install BSD on an IBM ThinkPad 600X that I have.  It 
has not been running the newer Windows and I popped a CD version of 
Knoppix in it and it works fantastic.


It got me thinking... I had used BSD in the past and I would like to 
find an OS that I can actually 'install' on the hard drive and just 
use the computer strictly as a BSD machine.  Do you have a version of 
BSD Free that will install and run on this machine?


On my PII-233 Thinkpad 600, I've used FreeBSD 5.x and 6.x without 
problems.  Maybe 4.x, too, can't recall.  X11 worked fine.  I didn't 
test any suspend or power save functions.  You can check the FreeBSD 
Laptop Compatibility List at:


http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/

Unfortunately, it seems to have been discovered by link spammers. 
Still, the original information looks intact.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Which one?

2006-12-07 Thread Todd McNutt
I am hoping to install BSD on an IBM ThinkPad 600X that I have.  It has not 
been running the newer Windows and I popped a CD version of Knoppix in it and 
it works fantastic.

It got me thinking... I had used BSD in the past and I would like to find an OS 
that I can actually 'install' on the hard drive and just use the computer 
strictly as a BSD machine.  Do you have a version of BSD Free that will install 
and run on this machine?

Hope you do,

Todd McNutt
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Re: Which one?

2006-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12/7/06, Todd McNutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am hoping to install BSD on an IBM ThinkPad 600X that
I have.  It has not been running the newer Windows and I
popped a CD version of Knoppix in it and it works fantastic.

It got me thinking... I had used BSD in the past and I would
like to find an OS that I can actually 'install' on the hard
drive and just use the computer strictly as a BSD machine.
 Do you have a version of BSD Free that will install and run
on this machine?


Assuming that by thinkpad 600x you are talking about a
pentium3, any current distribution:
http://pcbsd.org/
http://www.desktopbsd.net/
http://www.freesbie.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/where.html
. . . should work fine.

YMMV

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External HD create different slice on /dev which one i need to mount...?

2006-11-22 Thread perikillo

  Hi people.

  I have one external HD:

umass0: Prolific Technology Inc. Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): error 22
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable Error
pass0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
pass0: WDC WD25 00JB-00REA0 20.0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers
GEOM: new disk da0
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: WDC WD25 00JB-00REA0 20.0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
da0: 238475MB (488397168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30401C)

Ok i setup the HD with sysinstall and format all the disk to UFS2, this is
my entry on /dev

crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 102 Nov 14 16:39 da0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 103 Nov 14 16:39 da0s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  86 Nov 14 16:39 da0s1c
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  87 Nov 14 16:39 da0s1d

Now which one i need to mount each time i need to use this HD...?

I create one mount point, /ext, FreeBSD the first time use /dev/da0s1d, them
if i want to mount that one, it send this message:

WARNING: /ext was not properly dismounted

No metter which one i use, da0s1, da0s1c, da0s1d always send this message,
this is normal...?

mount /dev/da0s1 /ext
mount /dev/da0s1c /ext
mount /dev/da0s1d /ext

Always: WARNING: /ext was not properly dismounted

Any idea about this...?

Im using FreeBSD 6.1-p10, my machine has 6 USB ports i have been testing
with all and the same message.

Thanks all for your time!!!
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Re: External HD create different slice on /dev which one i need to mount...?

2006-11-22 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:37:52 -0800
perikillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mount /dev/da0s1 /ext
this is the slice, dont use it
 mount /dev/da0s1c /ext
this is the raw partition, DONT use c - ever, unless u really (think you) know
what you are doing 

 mount /dev/da0s1d /ext

bing

 
 Always: WARNING: /ext was not properly dismounted
 
 Any idea about this...?

yes, last time you mounted da0s1d , u didnt unmounted it cleanly. Before you
mount, you should run fsck -p on it:
(as root, or with sudo)

fsck -p -t ufs /dev/da0s1d


 
 Im using FreeBSD 6.1-p10, my machine has 6 USB ports i have been testing
 with all and the same message.

of course, it is nothing to do with the usb itself, it's a filesystem issue.
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Re: External HD create different slice on /dev which one i need to mount...?

2006-11-22 Thread perikillo

On 11/22/06, Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:37:52 -0800
perikillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mount /dev/da0s1 /ext
this is the slice, dont use it
 mount /dev/da0s1c /ext
this is the raw partition, DONT use c - ever, unless u really (think you)
know
what you are doing

 mount /dev/da0s1d /ext

bing


 Always: WARNING: /ext was not properly dismounted

 Any idea about this...?

yes, last time you mounted da0s1d , u didnt unmounted it cleanly. Before
you
mount, you should run fsck -p on it:
(as root, or with sudo)

fsck -p -t ufs /dev/da0s1d



 Im using FreeBSD 6.1-p10, my machine has 6 USB ports i have been testing
 with all and the same message.

of course, it is nothing to do with the usb itself, it's a filesystem
issue.
_
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The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway
where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also
a
negative side. Hunter S. Thompson

I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when
wet.
Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have
been
Warned.



Thanks Norberto for your answer i got it, right now im testing the HD on my
laptop, is working really good.

See you!!!
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dual-dvi graphic adapter, which one

2005-04-19 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi,

I'm planning to buy a new graphic adapter, which should fulfill a few 
conditions.

a) dual-dvi output
b) no fan (well yes, it needs to be silent)
c) fast 3d acceleration NOT required
d) tv-out not required
e) cheap ;-))
f)  tending to a NVIDIA adapter because of their freebsd support

Is someone using such a card, if so, which one?

Many thx
Didier


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Linux Type OS's which one do I choose?

2004-07-19 Thread David Wigle


Assist please?


This is my system file information:  I'd like to 
run LinspireOS   and star Office. I currently have stare office 7.1
for Windows.

The Hard drive is set as NFTS.  

May I have a dual boot or may I just dump Windows.  I
use PPOE w/DSL and have some special forms programs  .exe, for filling
out forms.

Will I be able to use these programs? 

I have to decide between BSD, Sun OS and Linsprie or SUSie.

I use an Imac also and prefer it. However I must be able to run some
windows programs, like word. 

Does or is WINE type programs needed for windows apps?

I use a Devorak keyboard, arethere drivers available.

I aps have a Bently CAD program,  I use for Windows  Will 
this work in a linux type environment.  

I want compatability seamlisly, but also want off of WIndows.

Thank you Gary Okupant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  System Information report written at: 07/19/04 07:08:54
LocalMachine[System Summary]

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Re: Linux Type OS's which one do I choose?

2004-07-19 Thread Bill Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wigle) wrote:
 Assist please?
 
 This is my system file information:  I'd like to 
 run LinspireOS   and star Office. I currently have stare office 7.1
 for Windows.

Interesting.

 The Hard drive is set as NFTS.  
 
 May I have a dual boot or may I just dump Windows.

Based on the rest of your email, you should probably set up to dual boot.

 I
 use PPOE w/DSL and have some special forms programs  .exe, for filling
 out forms.
 
 Will I be able to use these programs?

They might work under wine, but I wouldn't assume so until you've tested
them.

 I have to decide between BSD, Sun OS and Linsprie or SUSie.

You want to use FreeBSD.

 I use an Imac also and prefer it. However I must be able to run some
 windows programs, like word. 
 
 Does or is WINE type programs needed for windows apps?

Yes.

 I use a Devorak keyboard, arethere drivers available.

Yes.

 I aps have a Bently CAD program,  I use for Windows  Will 
 this work in a linux type environment.  

Don't know, you'll need to test it.

 I want compatability seamlisly, but also want off of WIndows.

Don't we all.

Good luck.

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Re: Linux Type OS's which one do I choose?

2004-07-19 Thread Vulpes Velox

BTW, it by unix type, not linux type. Linux = a specifc kernel. Unix =
a large family of similar OSes, which includes unix.  ;)

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:41:20 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wigle) wrote:

 This is my system file information:  I'd like to 
 run LinspireOS   and star Office. I currently have stare office 7.1
 for Windows.
 
 The Hard drive is set as NFTS.  

You won't find good r/w support in any thing besides WindowsNT.
 
 May I have a dual boot or may I just dump Windows.  I
 use PPOE w/DSL and have some special forms programs  .exe, for
 filling out forms.
 
 Will I be able to use these programs? 

Networking is no problem. I suggest totally forgeting about those
programs and finding replacements. Dosbox, wine, or doscmd if you must
have them.

 I have to decide between BSD, Sun OS and Linsprie or SUSie.
 
 I use an Imac also and prefer it. However I must be able to run some
 windows programs, like word. 
 
 Does or is WINE type programs needed for windows apps?

Depends. I will say, when your lucky.

 I use a Devorak keyboard, arethere drivers available.

Yeah, a keyboard is a keyboard regardless of what the keys on it say.
You just have to select a devorak layout when configuring it.
 
 I aps have a Bently CAD program,  I use for Windows  Will 
 this work in a linux type environment.

Only if they have a linux port. I would suggest keeping your life
simple instead of trying to shoe horn it in using wine or a modified
wine that comes with some linux distros. Go dual boot or make one
system for your unix of choice and another for windows. 

 I want compatability seamlisly, but also want off of WIndows.

Depends... as far as networking and the like that is entirely
possible. If you are counting on running unix apps on windows and vice
versa, you won't be able to well or effectively.



Any ways, have fun :)
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Not sure which one to download

2004-01-04 Thread keithjacksonmusic
I was looking into the different platforms FreeBSD supports, and most of them are 64 
bit processors. Does FreeBSD support AMD Durons clocked at 1.3 ghz? If so, which one 
should i download? Thanks a bunch  

~Keith~
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Re: Not sure which one to download

2004-01-04 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, keithjacksonmusic wrote:

 I was looking into the different platforms FreeBSD supports, and most
 of them are 64 bit processors.

The main version of FreeBSD is for i386 stuff.

 Does FreeBSD support AMD Durons clocked at 1.3 ghz?

Yes, the i386 version will work on it.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: which one do i choose

2003-12-12 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 01:34:01AM -0500, Matthew Sluiter wrote:
 I would like to try out you OS but i'm not sure which files to download. I 
 would like to make a cd installation possible, however i am quite confused. 
 I have windows xp machine right now and was wondering what to download. can 
 you help me?

Welcome to FreeBSD.

As a complete beginner, we recommend that you start with the
production release: 4.9-RELEASE.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/announce.html

Detailed documentation about installing the system chan be found here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

However you've said you want to cut yourself some installation CDs.
You need to download .iso images from one of the FTP sites:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html

The Mirror Sites database is very handy for locating this sort of
thing: http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php

However essentially you will want to go here:

   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.9/

or the equivalent directory on one of the mirrors.

There are 3 iso images available:

4.9-i386-mini.iso

This is the minimum set of stuff you need to get FreeBSD
installed.  Note that this *doesn't* contain anything other than
the basic FreeBSD system.  So, for instance, if you want X windows
(you probably do), you'll have to download it separately once
you've got the OS installed.

4.9-i386-disc1.iso

This contains the same stuff as the mini .iso above plus quite a
lot of extra useful stuff -- it's 3x the size of the mini-iso.
You need either this or the mini-iso.

4.9-i386-disc2.iso

This is a live-filesystem image which you can boot and run from.
It's principal use is for repairing systems where the normal boot
process has been broken.  It's nice to have around, but you don't
have to have it for doing the installation.

The CHECKSUMS.MD5 file just contains this text:

MD5 (4.9-i386-disc1.iso) = 9195be15a4c8c54a6a6a23272ddacaae
MD5 (4.9-i386-disc2.iso) = 51d28c35308cc916b9a9bfcacb3146b8
MD5 (4.9-i386-mini.iso) = 2635f02aebce8e1c2b83d1acdbbcb2ea

which lets you verify that there were no errors in the image you
downloaded by comparing this checksum against a checksum you can
generate locally.  Again, not necessary for installation, but useful
to do.

If you were to buy the 4-CD installation set from one of the vendors
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/ or http://www.bsdmall.com/), you'ld get
precisely these disc1 and disc2 versions as the first two CDs with
another 2-CDs worth of precompiled 3rd party software packages.

When you come to generate the installation CDs, beware that you don't
end up with a CD that contains just the one .iso file, rather than
expanding the .iso into a whole load of stuff: check the archives of
this list for details of exactly what you need to do with various CD
burning software -- http://freebsd.rambler.ru/ is a good site to use
for that.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: which one do i choose

2003-12-12 Thread jonathan
 Message: 17
 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:34:01 -0500
 From: Matthew Sluiter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: which one do i choose
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 I would like to try out you OS but i'm not sure which files to download. I
 would like to make a cd installation possible, however i am quite
confused.
 I have windows xp machine right now and was wondering what to download.
can
 you help me?

 Hi, if you want to install freebsd from a cd, i suggest you to download
the .iso from this adress and than burn it on cds.

here's the link for the production release 4.9.
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.9/
This is the best version to get the best support and most port will already
be there.

You can order the original cds from this adress if you don't have a cd
burner.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html#MIRRORS-CDROM

Hope it will help you!


 Matthew Sluiter

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which one do i choose

2003-12-11 Thread Matthew Sluiter
I would like to try out you OS but i'm not sure which files to download. I 
would like to make a cd installation possible, however i am quite confused. 
I have windows xp machine right now and was wondering what to download. can 
you help me?



Matthew Sluiter

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Re: TeX, teTeX, laTeX which one?

2003-07-17 Thread David Rio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 09:55:26PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 I want to get to learn the world of TeX.
 I know I have to read some books about it, but I'm a little confused
 about which port(s) I need to install.
 
 TUG (TeX User Group) speaks of teTeX, but in the ports is also a TeX
 
 I guess I have to install teTeX. Am I right?
 
 What extra programs are relevant to install? (LaTeX, pdflatex, metafont,
 LyX, JadeTeX)???
 

Install TeTeX and get the Tobias Oetiker introduction to Latex: 
Not too short introduction to Latex

In two hours you will be taking profit to Latex.

Good luck and enjoy .
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TeX, teTeX, laTeX which one?

2003-07-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
I want to get to learn the world of TeX.
I know I have to read some books about it, but I'm a little confused
about which port(s) I need to install.

TUG (TeX User Group) speaks of teTeX, but in the ports is also a TeX

I guess I have to install teTeX. Am I right?

What extra programs are relevant to install? (LaTeX, pdflatex, metafont,
LyX, JadeTeX)???

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Re: TeX, teTeX, laTeX which one?

2003-07-16 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 09:55:26PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 I want to get to learn the world of TeX.
 I know I have to read some books about it, but I'm a little confused
 about which port(s) I need to install.
 
 TUG (TeX User Group) speaks of teTeX, but in the ports is also a TeX
 
 I guess I have to install teTeX. Am I right?

Yes. Start with teTeX. Once you know more, you can try other stuff.
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Re: TeX, teTeX, laTeX which one?

2003-07-16 Thread bjkwak
dick hoogendijk wrote:
 
 I want to get to learn the world of TeX.
 I know I have to read some books about it, but I'm a little confused
 about which port(s) I need to install.
 
 TUG (TeX User Group) speaks of teTeX, but in the ports is also a TeX
 
 I guess I have to install teTeX. Am I right?
 
 What extra programs are relevant to install? (LaTeX, pdflatex, metafont,
 LyX, JadeTeX)???

As I know teTeX is a distribution of LaTeX and many packages.  
The packages included in teTeX is quite complete, and you will
be able to do most of what you need to do without any extra
installation.

Byung-Jae
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Re: TeX, teTeX, laTeX which one?

2003-07-16 Thread Viktor Lazlo


On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, dick hoogendijk wrote:

 I want to get to learn the world of TeX.
 I know I have to read some books about it, but I'm a little confused
 about which port(s) I need to install.

 TUG (TeX User Group) speaks of teTeX, but in the ports is also a TeX

 I guess I have to install teTeX. Am I right?

 What extra programs are relevant to install? (LaTeX, pdflatex, metafont,
 LyX, JadeTeX)???

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teTeX is the standard install for TeX, it includes pretty much everything
you need (metafont/LaTeX/pdflatex)--at any rate they're all on my system
and all I remember installing was teTeX.

Cheers,

Viktor

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Re: grip cd ripper - which one

2002-12-10 Thread John Bleichert
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, local.freebsd.questions wrote:

 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:59:25 -
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 Subject: Re: grip cd ripper - which one
 
 On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:31:01 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John
 Bleichert) wrote:
 
 
 Whoops!! I never installed cdrtools, burncd has been working well.
 
 Thanks for the pointer!
 
 Surely it only works for SCSI CDs though?
 

You mean 'burncd'? Nope, I have an IDE Plexwriter and it works like a 
charm.

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Re: grip cd ripper - which one

2002-12-10 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 10:59:25AM -, local.freebsd.questions wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:31:01 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John
 Bleichert) wrote:
 
 Whoops!! I never installed cdrtools, burncd has been working well.
 
 Thanks for the pointer!
 
 Surely it only works for SCSI CDs though?

If you mean cdrtools, it works on IDE burners with options ATAPICAM and
necessary SCSI devices in your kernel, using a recent -STABLE:

[stijn@pcwin002] ~ sudo cdrecord --scanbus

...

1,0,0   100) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R   PX-W1610A' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM

HTH,

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grip cd ripper - which one

2002-12-09 Thread John Bleichert
Hello All

I'm looking for a ripping utility to tell grip to use to pull tracks from 
an audio cd - which one does everybody use? The default is cdda2wav which 
isn't in the ports collection.

I see a few other rippers in the ports collection, but I like grip - which 
ripping utility should I tell it to use?

Thanks - JB


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Re: grip cd ripper - which one

2002-12-09 Thread paul beard
John Bleichert wrote:


Hello All

I'm looking for a ripping utility to tell grip to use to pull 
tracks from
an audio cd - which one does everybody use? The default is 
cdda2wav which
isn't in the ports collection.

is too . . . .

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[/usr/ports]:: pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav
/usr/local/bin/cdda2wav was installed by package cdrtools-1.11.a39

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Re: grip cd ripper - which one

2002-12-09 Thread John Bleichert
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, paul beard wrote:
 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:22:38 -0800
 From: paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: grip cd ripper - which one
 
 John Bleichert wrote:
 
  Hello All
 
  I'm looking for a ripping utility to tell grip to use to pull 
  tracks from
  an audio cd - which one does everybody use? The default is 
  cdda2wav which
  isn't in the ports collection.
 
 is too . . . .
 
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 [/usr/ports]:: pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav
 /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav was installed by package cdrtools-1.11.a39
 

Whoops!! I never installed cdrtools, burncd has been working well.

Thanks for the pointer!

JB

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Which one is the right FTP?

2002-12-04 Thread Lord Raiden
	Ok, got a slight dilemma.  Installed ProFTPD just a few days back and was 
trying to fire up my FTP server using /usr/libexec/ftpd.  Well low and 
behold, that's still the default FTP server for Freebsd.  I thought that 
when you installed ProFTPD it overwrote that.  If no, then where did it put 
it?  Thanks for the help.


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Re: Which one is the right FTP?

2002-12-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lord Raiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Ok, got a slight dilemma.  Installed ProFTPD just a few days
 back and was trying to fire up my FTP server using /usr/libexec/ftpd.
 Well low and behold, that's still the default FTP server for Freebsd.
 I thought that when you installed ProFTPD it overwrote that.  If no,
 then where did it put it?  Thanks for the help.

Ports should *not* overwrite the base system.
To find out how a port installed itself, use the pkg_info(1) command.
In this case, I think you'll find ${PREFIX}/libexec/proftpd
is what you're looking for, assuming you haven't redefined your ports
prefix.  

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Re: Which one is the right FTP?

2002-12-04 Thread Akifyev Sergey
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 06:41, Lord Raiden wrote:
   Ok, got a slight dilemma.  Installed ProFTPD just a few days back and was 
 trying to fire up my FTP server using /usr/libexec/ftpd.  Well low and 
 behold, that's still the default FTP server for Freebsd.  I thought that 
 when you installed ProFTPD it overwrote that.  If no, then where did it put 
 it?  Thanks for the help.

cat /var/db/pkg/proftpd-*/+CONTENTS | fgrep -v @

should list all files in package, with path relative to prefix

cat /var/db/pkg/proftpd-*/+CONTENTS | fgrep @cwd

will give you the default prefix for a package.
 
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Re: Which one is the right FTP?

2002-12-04 Thread Wilkinson,Alex
cat /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/pkg-plist

 - aW


Ok, got a slight dilemma.  Installed ProFTPD just a few days back and was
trying to fire up my FTP server using /usr/libexec/ftpd.  Well low and
behold, that's still the default FTP server for Freebsd.  I thought that
when you installed ProFTPD it overwrote that.  If no, then where did it put
it?  Thanks for the help.


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Re: Which one is the right FTP?

2002-12-04 Thread David Siebörger
At  8:12 AM on Thursday  5 December 2002, Akifyev Sergey wrote:
   cat /var/db/pkg/proftpd-*/+CONTENTS | fgrep -v @
 
 should list all files in package, with path relative to prefix
 
   cat /var/db/pkg/proftpd-*/+CONTENTS | fgrep @cwd
 
 will give you the default prefix for a package.

pkg_info -Lx proftpd would be far less painful.


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