Re: epson printers on amd64

2011-11-20 Thread David Southwell
On Saturday 19 November 2011 21:27:42 Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
  On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, David Southwell wrote:
  Anyone up to date on how to do high quality printing with
  epson inkjet printers (in my case r2400 and r2880) on amd64
  systems.  print/pips* reports they require 386 and do not
  compile on amd64.
  
  print/gimp-gutenprint works pretty well from Gimp, although
  I have not figured out how to get consistent color and brightness.
  It supports both of those printers.
  
  I'm sure I'm not alone in doubting that _any_ ink-spitter is likely to
  produce high quality printing or consistent color and brightness,
  regardless of the host support used.  Those printers are designed to
  be manufactured as inexpensively as possible so as to be sold at very
  low prices, the profit being in the recurring ink sales.  Cheap and
  high quality tend to be incompatible design goals.
 
 (Sorry, I hadn't realized I was replying on -emulation, which is meant
 for computer emulation.  CCed to -questions on this reply.)
 
 Quality color photos are the one area where inkjets really can do a good
 job.  Experimenting with cheap Epson R200 and R280 has shown that they
 can print better quality photos than local photo printing places.
 
 Color and brightness are consistent until I print a different photo.
 Gutenprint saves the settings, it's just that they don't work
 the same with different photos.  Possibly this is due to my changing the
 wrong adjustments.
 
 Oh, and I've only used Gutenprint on 32-bit systems so far.

To get high quality printing with good inkjet printeres like r2400 and r2880 
here are the main steps I follow:

1. Define the colour space (e.g adobe rgb 1998) to be used when the image is 
being captured.

2. Shoot using the correct white space setting for the scene.

3. Load onto the computer having first profiled your monitor.

4. Use your  preferred editing software (e.g. photoshop) using a defined 
working space colour profile e.g. adobe 1998 (I prefer prophoto which is  
32bit floating decimal point).

5. Convert the colour profile of the image to the working colour space.

6. Process the image.

7. When processing complete choose the paper for printing.

8. Make sure you have a suitable colour profile for that paper for your chosen 
printer.

9. Print using the appropriate paper profile.



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Re: epson printers on amd64

2011-11-20 Thread David Southwell
On Sunday 20 November 2011 01:33:53 David Southwell wrote:
 On Saturday 19 November 2011 21:27:42 Warren Block wrote:
  On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
   Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
   On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, David Southwell wrote:
   Anyone up to date on how to do high quality printing with
   epson inkjet printers (in my case r2400 and r2880) on amd64
   systems.  print/pips* reports they require 386 and do not
   compile on amd64.
   
   print/gimp-gutenprint works pretty well from Gimp, although
   I have not figured out how to get consistent color and brightness.
   It supports both of those printers.
   
   I'm sure I'm not alone in doubting that _any_ ink-spitter is likely to
   produce high quality printing or consistent color and brightness,
   regardless of the host support used.  Those printers are designed to
   be manufactured as inexpensively as possible so as to be sold at very
   low prices, the profit being in the recurring ink sales.  Cheap and
   high quality tend to be incompatible design goals.
  
  (Sorry, I hadn't realized I was replying on -emulation, which is meant
  for computer emulation.  CCed to -questions on this reply.)
  
  Quality color photos are the one area where inkjets really can do a good
  job.  Experimenting with cheap Epson R200 and R280 has shown that they
  can print better quality photos than local photo printing places.
  
  Color and brightness are consistent until I print a different photo.
  Gutenprint saves the settings, it's just that they don't work
  the same with different photos.  Possibly this is due to my changing the
  wrong adjustments.
  
  Oh, and I've only used Gutenprint on 32-bit systems so far.
 
 To get high quality printing with good inkjet printeres like r2400 and
 r2880 here are the main steps I follow:
 
 1. Define the colour space (e.g adobe rgb 1998) to be used when the image
 is being captured.
 
 2. Shoot using the correct white space setting for the scene.
 
 3. Load onto the computer having first profiled your monitor.
 
 4. Use your  preferred editing software (e.g. photoshop) using a defined
 working space colour profile e.g. adobe 1998 (I prefer prophoto which is
 32bit floating decimal point).
 
 5. Convert the colour profile of the image to the working colour space.
 
 6. Process the image.
 
 7. When processing complete choose the paper for printing.
 
 8. Make sure you have a suitable colour profile for that paper for your
 chosen printer.
 
 9. Print using the appropriate paper profile.
 
 
 
Sorry I should have mentioned that ghostscript are integrating colour 
profiling using icc profiles although the last time I checked there was no 
support for the kind of monitor profile creation devices such as those 
manufactured by datacolor which I use on I hate to say it MS$ systems. There 
is an interesting paper on Ghostscript Color Management to be found on 
www.artifex.com/Ghostscript_Color_Architecture.pdf

david
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Re: epson printers on amd64

2011-11-20 Thread David Southwell
On Sunday 20 November 2011 01:58:07 David Southwell wrote:
 On Sunday 20 November 2011 01:33:53 David Southwell wrote:
  On Saturday 19 November 2011 21:27:42 Warren Block wrote:
   On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, David Southwell wrote:
Anyone up to date on how to do high quality printing with
epson inkjet printers (in my case r2400 and r2880) on amd64
systems.  print/pips* reports they require 386 and do not
compile on amd64.

print/gimp-gutenprint works pretty well from Gimp, although
I have not figured out how to get consistent color and brightness.
It supports both of those printers.

I'm sure I'm not alone in doubting that _any_ ink-spitter is likely
to produce high quality printing or consistent color and
brightness, regardless of the host support used.  Those printers
are designed to be manufactured as inexpensively as possible so as
to be sold at very low prices, the profit being in the recurring ink
sales.  Cheap and high quality tend to be incompatible design
goals.
   
   (Sorry, I hadn't realized I was replying on -emulation, which is meant
   for computer emulation.  CCed to -questions on this reply.)
   
   Quality color photos are the one area where inkjets really can do a
   good job.  Experimenting with cheap Epson R200 and R280 has shown that
   they can print better quality photos than local photo printing places.
   
   Color and brightness are consistent until I print a different photo.
   Gutenprint saves the settings, it's just that they don't work
   the same with different photos.  Possibly this is due to my changing
   the wrong adjustments.
   
   Oh, and I've only used Gutenprint on 32-bit systems so far.
  
  To get high quality printing with good inkjet printeres like r2400 and
  r2880 here are the main steps I follow:
  
  1. Define the colour space (e.g adobe rgb 1998) to be used when the image
  is being captured.
  
  2. Shoot using the correct white space setting for the scene.
  
  3. Load onto the computer having first profiled your monitor.
  
  4. Use your  preferred editing software (e.g. photoshop) using a defined
  working space colour profile e.g. adobe 1998 (I prefer prophoto which is
  32bit floating decimal point).
  
  5. Convert the colour profile of the image to the working colour space.
  
  6. Process the image.
  
  7. When processing complete choose the paper for printing.
  
  8. Make sure you have a suitable colour profile for that paper for your
  chosen printer.
  
  9. Print using the appropriate paper profile.
 
 Sorry I should have mentioned that ghostscript are integrating colour
 profiling using icc profiles although the last time I checked there was no
 support for the kind of monitor profile creation devices such as those
 manufactured by datacolor which I use on I hate to say it MS$ systems.
 There is an interesting paper on Ghostscript Color Management to be found
 on www.artifex.com/Ghostscript_Color_Architecture.pdf
 
OK  thanks to you guys asking some questions I have found that 
graphics/lprof-devel
can support the creation of monitor and print profiles using Spyder 2  Spyder 
3 from datacolor. I have been a bit lazy in following up my earlier interest 
in profiling monitors on freebsd 7.2  8.2 as I would like to reduce my 
reliance on MS$ and apple systems. It looks like I missed this one which is 
being compiled as I speak.

I will try forcing a compile of the 32bit code for the epson r2400  r2880 
which I am told may compile on 64bit given some work. I will report back if I 
finish up with a viable system.

David
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Re: epson printers on amd64

2011-11-19 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:


Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, David Southwell wrote:

Anyone up to date on how to do high quality printing with
epson inkjet printers (in my case r2400 and r2880) on amd64
systems.  print/pips* reports they require 386 and do not
compile on amd64.


print/gimp-gutenprint works pretty well from Gimp, although
I have not figured out how to get consistent color and brightness.
It supports both of those printers.


I'm sure I'm not alone in doubting that _any_ ink-spitter is likely to
produce high quality printing or consistent color and brightness,
regardless of the host support used.  Those printers are designed to
be manufactured as inexpensively as possible so as to be sold at very
low prices, the profit being in the recurring ink sales.  Cheap and
high quality tend to be incompatible design goals.


(Sorry, I hadn't realized I was replying on -emulation, which is meant 
for computer emulation.  CCed to -questions on this reply.)


Quality color photos are the one area where inkjets really can do a good 
job.  Experimenting with cheap Epson R200 and R280 has shown that they 
can print better quality photos than local photo printing places.


Color and brightness are consistent until I print a different photo. 
Gutenprint saves the settings, it's just that they don't work 
the same with different photos.  Possibly this is due to my changing the 
wrong adjustments.


Oh, and I've only used Gutenprint on 32-bit systems so far.
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