Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Clutton
 The bios has 4 modes auto, large, lba, chs in which to access the
 hard disk. I ttried all 4 modes and it  doesn't solve the problem.

No, i didn't say to try different bios modes. I said (which fdisk also
says) that you should:
1. Go into the bios, see what it reports as the CHS
2. Reboot  (i thought this part was a given to get back to Fdisk)
3. When you get up to the fdisk section, enter the CHS value given to
you by the bios
using the g key, and writing it manually.
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Kamal R. Prasad
I was replying to both you and Andrew R. Andrew mentioned the hw may  
be unstable.
I did enter the same values provided by BIOS -but it doesn't solve  
the problem.

Most likely, the bios on my motherboard is not compaible with freebsd.

regards
-kamal

On 13-Oct-05, at 11:35 AM, Peter Clutton wrote:


The bios has 4 modes auto, large, lba, chs in which to access the
hard disk. I ttried all 4 modes and it  doesn't solve the problem.



No, i didn't say to try different bios modes. I said (which fdisk also
says) that you should:
1. Go into the bios, see what it reports as the CHS
2. Reboot  (i thought this part was a given to get back to Fdisk)
3. When you get up to the fdisk section, enter the CHS value given to
you by the bios
using the g key, and writing it manually.



Kamal R. Prasad
UNIX systems consultant
http://www.kamalprasad.com/
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/13/05, Kamal R. Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was replying to both you and Andrew R. Andrew mentioned the hw may
 be unstable.
 I did enter the same values provided by BIOS -but it doesn't solve
 the problem.
 Most likely, the bios on my motherboard is not compaible with freebsd.

 regards
 -kamal



In fact FreeBSD bypasses BIOS and interacts directly
with a disk controller. Could you tell us the exact vendor
and make of your motherboard. It's an interesting case.


Thanks,
Andrew P.
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kamal R. Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have verified integrity of the hard disk and this problem shows up
 on a new samsung 1604N hard disk too. It is a hard disk independet
 problem.
 
 On 13-Oct-05, at 5:49 AM, Peter Clutton wrote:
 
  For some reason, the values of hard disk geometry (cylinders/head/
  sectors( are not accrptable to fdisk and when i agree to using
  freebsd 's idea of disk geometryt, during sysinstall -I get an
  error:-0
  UDMA_100 error:READWRITE Failure ICRC error.
 
 
 
  Usually fdsisk asks you to check what the bios reports as the CHS
  and enter that
  manually, using the g option i believe. Have you tried this?
 
 The bios has 4 modes auto, large, lba, chs in which to access the
 hard disk. I ttried all 4 modes and it  doesn't solve the problem.
  However as stated above, and looking at those errors, this may be a
  hardware problem.
 
 The hardware is stable and I expect any hard disk to give the same
 error essentially because the interaction between bios and freebsd is
 the cause of the problem.

A CRC error?  Doesn't seem likely.  Why do you say so?  It's not
like FreeBSD is using the BIOS at all at that point...

Personally, I'd try another ATA cable; that's the most frequent cause
of this particular symptom.  
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Kamal R. Prasad
The motherboard is from American Megatrends Corp and it runs Award  
Bios.

I am pasting below info from dmesg below:-
--
CPU: AMD Athalon(tm) XP(1468.47-Mhz 686 class CPU)
   Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2
   Features -0x383f9ffFPu,VME,DE,PSE,F\PSE,TSC
,MSR,PAE,MCE,CXU,SEP,MTER,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMx,FXSR,SSE
  AMD Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNoq+,3DNow
..
npx0:[FAST]
npx0: math coprocessor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: VIA694 AWRDACPI on motherboard
...
ata0: ATA channel0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA Channel 1 on ataci0
ad0: Samsung SP1604N TM100-30 at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: dvd r drive at ata0-slave UDMA33
ad2: 39083MB Maxtor 4D040H2 DAH017K0 at ata1-master UDMA100
ad0: WARTNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
..
ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR  
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=63

ad2: WARTNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
..
ad2: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED
-
sector 63 is where the first partition starts.
Both discs work perfectly in windows XP  and the -and if there was a  
cable/hw [roblem it would have shown during their functioning under  
windows xp.


pl. let me know if you need any more info from the system.

thanks
-kamal

On 13-Oct-05, at 3:54 PM, Andrew P. wrote:


On 10/13/05, Kamal R. Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was replying to both you and Andrew R. Andrew mentioned the hw may
be unstable.
I did enter the same values provided by BIOS -but it doesn't solve
the problem.
Most likely, the bios on my motherboard is not compaible with  
freebsd.


regards
-kamal





In fact FreeBSD bypasses BIOS and interacts directly
with a disk controller. Could you tell us the exact vendor
and make of your motherboard. It's an interesting case.


Thanks,
Andrew P.



Kamal R. Prasad
UNIX systems consultant
http://www.kamalprasad.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-13 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/13/05, Kamal R. Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The motherboard is from American Megatrends Corp and it runs Award
 Bios.
 I am pasting below info from dmesg below:-
 --
 CPU: AMD Athalon(tm) XP(1468.47-Mhz 686 class CPU)
 Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2
 Features -0x383f9ffFPu,VME,DE,PSE,F\PSE,TSC
 ,MSR,PAE,MCE,CXU,SEP,MTER,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMx,FXSR,SSE
AMD Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNoq+,3DNow
 ..
 npx0:[FAST]
 npx0: math coprocessor on motherboard
 npx0: INT 16 interface
 acpi0: VIA694 AWRDACPI on motherboard
 ...
 ata0: ATA channel0 on atapci0
 ata1: ATA Channel 1 on ataci0
 ad0: Samsung SP1604N TM100-30 at ata0-master UDMA100
 acd0: dvd r drive at ata0-slave UDMA33
 ad2: 39083MB Maxtor 4D040H2 DAH017K0 at ata1-master UDMA100
 ad0: WARTNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
 ..
 ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=63
 ad2: WARTNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
 ..
 ad2: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED
 -
 sector 63 is where the first partition starts.
 Both discs work perfectly in windows XP  and the -and if there was a
 cable/hw [roblem it would have shown during their functioning under
 windows xp.

 pl. let me know if you need any more info from the system.

 thanks
 -kamal


Do you honestly believe that a leading BIOS vendor
would manufacture a motherboard and install a
BIOS from its main competitor?

Anyway, AMI does not manufacture motherboards
which support AMD processors.

Your controller is probably recognized as
atapci0: VIA 8233 UDMA100 controller ...

It is fully supported, there's no doubt about that.
I'll bet you have some problem with cables,
they can claim to be ATA100-compatible, but
you should try other ones, maybe more expensive
ones. Windows and Linux might have a better
(in some ways) driver implementation, which
somehow handles faulty cables (by more
aggressive CRC recovery mechanisms, for
example).

When you check your cables, recheck them,
and redo it all over again - and you're dead
sure that they are in top-notch condition
(please, try at least two different 80-conductor
ones, I mean apart from those that are there
already, and at least one 40-conductor cable),
you should try upgrading to at least RELENG_5
(5-stable), or better yet RELENG_6 (6-current).
In case the problem persists you can try to
reopen pr i386/62687:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=62687
or to send a new pr, which references this old
one.

Thanks for your time. Post here any follow-ups,
I'll try to help you.


Cheerz,
Andrew P.
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freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-12 Thread Kamal R. Prasad

Hello.

I have an american megatrends corp motherboard with an amd 2 ghz  
processor,
For some reason, the values of hard disk geometry (cylinders/head/ 
sectors( are not accrptable to fdisk and when i agree to using  
freebsd 's idea of disk geometryt, during sysinstall -I get an error:-0

UDMA_100 error:READWRITE Failure ICRC error.

can someone tell me how to get past this issue? The drive is a maxtor  
40 Gb hard disk.


thanks
-kamal

Kamal R. Prasad
UNIX systems consultant
http://www.kamalprasad.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/12/05, Kamal R. Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.

 I have an american megatrends corp motherboard with an amd 2 ghz
 processor,
 For some reason, the values of hard disk geometry (cylinders/head/
 sectors( are not accrptable to fdisk and when i agree to using
 freebsd 's idea of disk geometryt, during sysinstall -I get an error:-0
 UDMA_100 error:READWRITE Failure ICRC error.

 can someone tell me how to get past this issue? The drive is a maxtor
 40 Gb hard disk.

 thanks
 -kamal

 Kamal R. Prasad
 UNIX systems consultant
 http://www.kamalprasad.com/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Please, before we continue, verify your HDD integrity

Download diagnostics software from www.maxtor.com

Floppy disk:
http://maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068/?channelpath=/en_us/Support/Software%20Downloads/All%20DownloadsdownloadID=22

CD-ROM:
http://maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068/?channelpath=/en_us/Support/Software%20Downloads/All%20DownloadsdownloadID=113
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Clutton
 For some reason, the values of hard disk geometry (cylinders/head/
 sectors( are not accrptable to fdisk and when i agree to using
 freebsd 's idea of disk geometryt, during sysinstall -I get an error:-0
 UDMA_100 error:READWRITE Failure ICRC error.


Usually fdsisk asks you to check what the bios reports as the CHS and enter that
manually, using the g option i believe. Have you tried this?

However as stated above, and looking at those errors, this may be a
hardware problem.
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Re: freebsd has problems with bios

2005-10-12 Thread Kamal R. Prasad
I have verified integrity of the hard disk and this problem shows up  
on a new samsung 1604N hard disk too. It is a hard disk independet  
problem.


On 13-Oct-05, at 5:49 AM, Peter Clutton wrote:


For some reason, the values of hard disk geometry (cylinders/head/
sectors( are not accrptable to fdisk and when i agree to using
freebsd 's idea of disk geometryt, during sysinstall -I get an  
error:-0

UDMA_100 error:READWRITE Failure ICRC error.




Usually fdsisk asks you to check what the bios reports as the CHS  
and enter that

manually, using the g option i believe. Have you tried this?

The bios has 4 modes auto, large, lba, chs in which to access the  
hard disk. I ttried all 4 modes and it  doesn't solve the problem.

However as stated above, and looking at those errors, this may be a
hardware problem.

The hardware is stable and I expect any hard disk to give the same  
error essentially because the interaction between bios and freebsd is  
the cause of the problem.


regards
-kamal


Kamal R. Prasad
UNIX systems consultant
http://www.kamalprasad.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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