Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-03 Thread William Gordon Rutherdale
I'm using the amd64 version of FreeBSD for an HP Pavillion using an 
Intel Core 2 Quad processor (Q6600).


So far it's doing fine with the processor.  There are some driver 
problems, for instance no sound.  However, as I'm using this machine as 
a compute server, I'm ignoring those limitations.  I ran some parallel 
computation problem on it and got good performance out of it.


-Will

Ivailo Tanusheff wrote:

You may use amd64 version for full support of the 64 functionalities.
Do not get the wrong impression, this is not only for AMD processors and 
allow you to use the full strength of the 64 bit architecture.
You may also use i386 branch and use PAE config options if you have more 
than 4 GB RAM.


Still, the best idea is to use amd64 version.

Regards,
  


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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-03 Thread Toni Schmidbauer
At Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:40:16 +0100,
Andreas Rudisch wrote:
 You can use 7.1-RELEASE-i386 (32bit) or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64 (64bit)
 depending on whether or not you are going to run 64 bit software or
 want to use more than 4GB of RAM.

i would also recommend to use fbsd amd64 if you plan to use zfs. even 
if you do not have more than 4gb of memory installed in your system.

see

http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide

hth,
toni
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:24:35 -0800 (PST)
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine 
 and would like to install freebsd on it.

You can use 7.1-RELEASE-i386 (32bit) or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64 (64bit)
depending on whether or not you are going to run 64 bit software or
want to use more than 4GB of RAM.

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:57:12 -0500
Aryeh M. Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE

I know.
 
 kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64 
 because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work 
 properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI 
 desktop *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times 
 better performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing 
 PCI cards installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)

AFAIK, the NVidia driver does not work (properly/at all) with PAE, 64
bit FreeBSD or more than 4GB of RAM.

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
 It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE
 kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64
 because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work
 properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI desktop
 *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times better
 performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing PCI cards
 installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)


I could be wrong, but I thought that the nvidia binary driver did not
work on a i386 PAE kernel.

Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourman Networks
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE
kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64
because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work
properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI desktop
*AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times better
performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing PCI cards
installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)




I could be wrong, but I thought that the nvidia binary driver did not
work on a i386 PAE kernel.

Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourman Networks

  
If I implied it I did not mean it I am sorry... (bad example) there are 
other ports that do work with PAE and not with AMD64 (forget what they 
are right now since I switched from amd64 to i386 almost 6 months 
ago)... also I do not know of any ports that do work with amd64 that do 
not work with PAE... I have not checked this but I think the primary 
difference is how large gcc reports void * (and other ptr's) to be as 
well the size of int's

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.


it's FreeBSD/amd64, as 64-bit intel is compatible with amd64
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread matt donovan
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:24 AM, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all:

 What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine
 and would like to install freebsd on it.

 Thanks



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that would be amd64 since amd64 is what the x86_64 is called
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intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread gahn
Hi all:

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.

Thanks


  
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

Andreas Rudisch wrote:

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:24:35 -0800 (PST)
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.



You can use 7.1-RELEASE-i386 (32bit) or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64 (64bit)
depending on whether or not you are going to run 64 bit software or
want to use more than 4GB of RAM.

Andreas
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It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE 
kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64 
because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work 
properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI 
desktop *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times 
better performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing 
PCI cards installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
You may use amd64 version for full support of the 64 functionalities.
Do not get the wrong impression, this is not only for AMD processors and 
allow you to use the full strength of the 64 bit architecture.
You may also use i386 branch and use PAE config options if you have more 
than 4 GB RAM.

Still, the best idea is to use amd64 version.

Regards,

Ivailo Tanusheff
Deputy Head of IT Department
ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD




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