On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Stas Verberkt lego...@legolasweb.nlwrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:24:20PM +0100, claudiu vasadi wrote:
From my point of view, I would like to see 2 major things in bsdinstall:
1) ZFS support
2) an option, to use GUI or text mode installer (similar to
All of these complaints can go directly to /dev/null
Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if you
don't vote, you don't get to express your opinion about -RELEASE changes
when you didn't run the STABLE/RC/BETAs. You had your chance to help
improve FreeBSD for
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600
Mark Felder articulated:
Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if
you don't vote,
Excuse me, but are you just trying to look naive?
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:40:42 -0600, je...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600
Mark Felder articulated:
Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if
you don't vote,
Excuse me, but are you just trying to look naive?
The wording wasn't exactly as
I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3 had
sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been reading the
lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even though it was agreed
upon that would not happen for 9.x.
I'll crawl under this rock now.
Allan
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Erm, you have to realize the new installer was discussed at length here,
when 9.0 was still under development/beta/prerelease.
Alternatively, you could do like me and install entirely by hand:
- boot
because, well, I LOVE FreeBSD. Basically, I've tried out NetBSD ONCE,
actually i used NetBSD BEFORE switching to FreeBSD, short time after they
released 2.0 and following versions. Got slower, unstable and bloated.
Switched to FreeBSD, which in every version is getting BETTER not worse.
I
I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more
appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the
arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't
understand you.
so may i explain you:
Those who cannot install things
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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:25 AM
To: Damien Fleuriot
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 07:30:57PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more
appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the
arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 07:25:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
And IMHO sysinstall should not exist, while good documentation about
installing BY HAND should be there.
I agree with the part of that sentence following the comma. That is all.
Someone that cannot install it him/herself
I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more
appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the
arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't
understand you.
so may i explain you:
Those who cannot install things
From my point of view, I would like to see 2 major things in bsdinstall:
1) ZFS support
2) an option, to use GUI or text mode installer (similar to RHEL, CentOS,
Solaris)
Other than that, I can use it just as I was using sysinstall, because we
always have ZFS on root (need to drop to shell to
PS: would like to see option 2 in PC-BSD too (maybe I'm just melancholic
to have a non-GUI installer :) )
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 09:52:17AM -0600, Mark Felder wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:40:42 -0600, je...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600
Mark Felder articulated:
Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if
you don't vote,
Excuse me, but
I'm very new to FreeBSD but it seems to me that the installer is pretty much
ok. My only wish is that there might be a little more info upfront somewhere,
preferably in the installer somewhere, about setting up for a dual boot. I
couldn't find in the handbook, (that may be my fault, don't
On Monday 23 January 2012 05:18:01 pm B. Kyle Adkins wrote:
I'm very new to FreeBSD but it seems to me that the installer is
pretty much ok. My only wish is that there might be a little more
info upfront somewhere, preferably in the installer somewhere, about
setting up for a dual boot. I
On Monday 23 January 2012 12:17:33 pm Mark Felder wrote:
I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3
had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been
reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even
though it was agreed upon that would not
On Monday 23 January 2012 01:29:23 pm Wojciech Puchar wrote:
because, well, I LOVE FreeBSD. Basically, I've tried out NetBSD
ONCE,
actually i used NetBSD BEFORE switching to FreeBSD, short time after
they released 2.0 and following versions. Got slower, unstable and
bloated. Switched to
On 01/24/12 11:33, gore wrote:
On Monday 23 January 2012 12:17:33 pm Mark Felder wrote:
I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3
had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been
reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even
though it
On Monday 23 January 2012 08:45:21 pm Da Rock wrote:
*snip*
Instead of crawling under a Rock, how about everyone here, ALL of
the people I've seen in this thread trashing each other; ALL of
you, just take 60 seconds, take a DEEP breath, and realize we ARE a
Community, which is a lot like a
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:24:20PM +0100, claudiu vasadi wrote:
From my point of view, I would like to see 2 major things in bsdinstall:
1) ZFS support
2) an option, to use GUI or text mode installer (similar to RHEL, CentOS,
Solaris)
3) GELI disk encryption
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Michael Sierchio schreef:
I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and IMHO, the 9.0 installer SUX!
It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a joke.
I hope I made myself clear. ;-)
- M
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On Saturday 21 January 2012 12:52:31 am Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 21 Jan 2012, at 05:47, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote:
I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and IMHO, the 9.0
installer SUX! It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a
joke.
I hope I made myself
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 21 Jan 2012, at 05:47, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote:
I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and IMHO, the 9.0 installer SUX!
It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a joke.
I hope I made myself clear. ;-)
- M
Just
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
... On the other hand, bsdinstall does get the job done, at least for my
purposes. It just does so in a way that feels a bit more
straightjacketed, and it rubs me personally a bit the wrong way. ...
From my
Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 1/19/12 3:25 AM, Allan McKinnon wrote:
I finally got to install FreeBSD 9 onto my computer and noticed that the
installer is now different. It seems to me that it forces you into doing extra
steps that I was comfortable doing on my own. I really enjoyed the old
On 1/20/12 9:36 AM, Fbsd8 wrote:
Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 1/19/12 3:25 AM, Allan McKinnon wrote:
I finally got to install FreeBSD 9 onto my computer and noticed that
the installer is now different. It seems to me that it forces you
into doing extra steps that I was comfortable doing on my
I've been sort of keeping track of this particular thread, because it
interested me, and after reading through, I'd like to share my personal
opinions.
Now, before I go any further, let me just state here and now; This is my
personal opinion, so, please, don't take this in a bad way, or in the
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, gore koggy...@comcast.net wrote:
[snip]
I also bought the newer 4th Edition when it came out. (Having Marshal
Kirk McKusick do the forward made me happy, he's one of my personal
heros. I also got to speak with him recently and I was almost
I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and IMHO, the 9.0 installer SUX!
It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a joke.
I hope I made myself clear. ;-)
- M
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Just to give thoughts as a younger user...
I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more
appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the
arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't
understand you. The old
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Lyubomir Grigorov
lyubo...@grigorovl.eu wrote:
Just to give thoughts as a younger user...
Also, there was plently of time during RC to discuss this, I don't see why you
all cry right now. To me, it seems you are afraid of change and getting out of
your comfort
On 21 Jan 2012, at 05:47, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote:
I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and IMHO, the 9.0 installer SUX!
It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a joke.
I hope I made myself clear. ;-)
- M
Just because you see things a certain way doesn't
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 08:19:32PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, gore koggy...@comcast.net wrote:
why not just use 8.x or something? I'm not being sarcastic
or anything either, I really am asking why not jut go to 8.2 which I
also Loved?
SU+J by Kirk
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