Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote: Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? It's not that odd: nobody has bothered to update the default partition sizes in sysinstall for a good few years, I

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:13:21 +0100 Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated: I'd consider that bad advice: the defaults sysinstall chooses are currently just wrong, and you should indeed be setting / to at least 1GB so you don't run out of space. The 'solution' of deleting kernel.old or not

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:18:18 -0400 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: I also ran out of space. I decided that a minimum of 2GB was the safest choice. It would be nice if the authors changed the default settings in the soon to be released 8.1 version so as to nullify this phenomena. I've

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:18:18 -0400 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: I also ran out of space. I decided that a minimum of 2GB was the safest choice. It would be nice if the authors changed the default settings in the

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:02:54PM -0700, Bill Tillman wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Things change slowly. I think only a short while ago the default was 256 MB or even 128 MB. Should I make the

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry McAllister writes: Things change slowly. I think only a short while ago the default was 256 MB or even 128 MB. I haven't checked the logs, but I think it would have been more than a short while. Consider: huff@ du -s /boot/kernel 225008 /boot/kernel huff@ du -s

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on

2010-07-06 Thread Bill Tillman
Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed --   I had the same problem and since my drives are

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-06 Thread RW
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:28:29 +0100 Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: I suspect whoever you were talking to probably has more of a clue than I do. As a quick data point, I just ran portsnap fetch update while another process did a df /var; sleep 1 loop and /var increased by about 30MB

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
On 02.07.2010 09:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread krad
On 2 July 2010 08:33, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.ukwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Robert Huff
krad writes: all i can say is your a brave boy 8) A 1 TB+ / slice would take ages to fsck. For ages being less than ten (fifteen ?) minutes on a modern system with reasonable memory ... ... which should be necessary very rarely. Even on my test system, time between

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:33:45 +0100 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two*

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 02:29:54PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Arthur Chance
On 07/02/10 13:13, Bruce Cran wrote: I have a task on my TODO list to increase the sizes of the partitions in sysinstall: for example / goes to 1GB, /var to 4GB. I hope to commit the code in the next couple of weeks. As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Robert Huff
Arthur Chance writes: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Arthur Chance
On 07/02/10 15:38, Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org wrote: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that

/boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Hi folks, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration when I did the install. I've taken the following steps: # csup -4

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 11:24, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration when I did the install. I've taken the

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then redo 'make installkernel', and all seems OK.

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Chip, That sounds like a smart thing to do; can you tell me more about how to do that (or point me to a www resource; I'm happy to read more about that). :-) Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread James Bailie
Try rm -r /boot/kernel.old I bet that's the problem. -- James Bailie http://www.mammothcheese.ca -Original Message- From: Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:24:46 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /boot is full after

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 15:10, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: On Jul 01 15:10, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting it, I just

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Anders Andersson
A healthy fear, indeed. For one thing, I'd certainly rather have someone do rm /boot/kernel.old/*.ko than rm -r /boot/kernel.old. Being even more selective is an obvious extension... Why not move the old useless kernel to another drive. Sure if the system kernel fails and you need the old

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Since it would be smart to have at least one known, good kernel, why not make the / partition maybe 1G? I know the smaller the / partition, the better the performance (since it's the first partition of the drive), but I can't imagine a slightly larger / partition would impact performance that

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread krad
On 1 July 2010 21:12, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote: Since it would be smart to have at least one known, good kernel, why not make the / partition maybe 1G? I know the smaller the / partition, the better the performance (since it's the first partition of the drive), but I can't imagine

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 11:24:46AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration when I did the

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 12:07:50PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Many people find

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not,

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Robert Huff
Henrik Hudson writes: Or just make one large partition. Not on a server, but I don't see much reason for using multiple partitions on a laptop. Multiple partitions still isn't a bad idea if you ever have to fsck and even on a desktop / laptop I usually mount /tmp as noexec.

Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 12:29, Chip Camden wrote: On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this