7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Amaru Netapshaak
Hi!

I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
ata-133 80gb drive, and 
my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
3TB 
'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

In any case, I'd like 
to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
startup the
array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
make that my new OS drive. 

Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
sometimes introduce 
bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover my bases prior to 
the work.

I am backing up this system to another 
system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild the
array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of data over the wire 
afterward.

Thanks for your help!

++AMARU



  
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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Amaru Netapshaak

No one has any idea?  :(

++AMARU






From: Amaru Netapshaak postfix_am...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 9:33:14 AM
Subject: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

Hi!

I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
ata-133 80gb drive, and 
my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
3TB 
'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

In any case, I'd like 
to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
startup the
array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
make that my new OS drive. 

Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
sometimes introduce 
bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover my bases prior to 
the work.

I am backing up this system to another 
system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild the
array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of data over the wire 
afterward.

Thanks for your help!

++AMARU



  
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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread James Phillips

 Hi!
 
 I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
SNIP!
 Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
 plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
 sometimes introduce 
 bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover
 my bases prior to the work.

This sounds like the kind of thing Release notes were designed for. I was not 
able to find them on the first page of the FreeBSD website, but if you click 
the big Get FreeBSD Now button, there is a link in the table detailing the 
releases:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes.html

 
 I am backing up this system to another 
 system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild
 the
 array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of
 data over the wire afterward.

Good idea ;)

FreeBSD no longer supports dangerously dedicated UFS filesystems (section 
2.2.5 of Detailed release notes) but I'm not sure if that is possible with 
gmirror.

 Thanks for your help!
 
 ++AMARU

PS: Your reply to yourself was in the same digest message. Not everybody is in 
your timezone either.

Regards,

James Phillips





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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 20/05/2010 24:03:17, Amaru Netapshaak wrote:
 I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
 in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
 ata-133 80gb drive, and 
 my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
 3TB 
 'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
 gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

Errr... the usual way of doing this is to create mirrored pairs of
drives and then stripe the mirrors together (a.k.a RAID10 -- creating a
pair of stripes and then mirroring them is RAID0+1).  There's very
little difference in performance characteristics between the two, but
RAID10 is more failure resistant.  Think about what happens if you lose
one drive. In the RAID10 case one mirror pair runs in degraded mode. In
the RAID0+1 case, one stripe -- half of your drives -- is out of action.

 In any case, I'd like 
 to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
 startup the
 array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
 fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
 make that my new OS drive. 

Should be fine.  I've done source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 and gmirror
has just worked.

If your old 7.0 drive is still in decent working order, it might be an
idea to set up the new 8.0 drive as half of a gmirror, and then reuse
the 7.0 drive as the other half once you're happy that the upgrade
succeeded.  If the disks aren't identical, you'll need to make sure that
the new 8.0 disk is not bigger than the old 7.0 drive -- look at the
number of sectors on each disk for the best comparison.

Cheers,

Matthew

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