AMD64 vs i386

2007-08-22 Thread Arend P. van der Veen
Hi All, I have a general question. We have access to some new AMD64 based Dell Servers with 2 Core Duo Xeons. We are currently using i386 Dell Servers with a core duo processor. I recall from my MS Windows days that when there was the shift from 16-bit to 32-bit processors it did take a

Re: AMD64 vs i386

2007-08-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:58:34AM -0400, Arend P. van der Veen wrote: Hi All, I have a general question. We have access to some new AMD64 based Dell Servers with 2 Core Duo Xeons. We are currently using i386 Dell Servers with a core duo processor. I recall from my MS Windows days

Re: AMD64 vs i386

2007-08-22 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:58:34AM -0400, Arend P. van der Veen wrote: - Will the AMD64 based FreeBSD 6.2 distribution with applications such as Postgresql, Apache, Python, Tomcat and SBCL be able to take advantage of the 64-bit quad processor? Yes, if you compile them natively on AMD64.

hands-on experience on 6.1 amd64 vs. i386

2006-11-13 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
this is nothing professional, just my personal experience. same machine, two sata, one is amd64, the other i386. while doing portupgrade due to gtk upgrade on amd64, it reboot a few times, never finished the job, and i can't say why. but on i386, portupgrade -fa due to no maintenance for a couple

Re: hands-on experience on 6.1 amd64 vs. i386

2006-11-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 05:32:45PM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: this is nothing professional, just my personal experience. same machine, two sata, one is amd64, the other i386. while doing portupgrade due to gtk upgrade on amd64, it reboot a few times, never finished the job, and i can't say

Re: hands-on experience on 6.1 amd64 vs. i386

2006-11-13 Thread Damian Wiest
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 05:57:31PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 05:32:45PM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: this is nothing professional, just my personal experience. same machine, two sata, one is amd64, the other i386. while doing portupgrade due to gtk upgrade on amd64,

AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Nathan Vidican
We've been encountering some difficulty between OpenLDAP/nss/pam/FreeBSD/samba over the past few months and really since inception. After countless recompiles of samba, working with samba and openldap code, we've traced it to being an issue somwhere between freebsd and openldap using threads,

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/12/05, Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've been encountering some difficulty between OpenLDAP/nss/pam/FreeBSD/samba over the past few months and really since inception. After countless recompiles of samba, working with samba and openldap code, we've traced it to being an issue

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Nathan Vidican
Thanks, I did not realize that there was an RC1 out for 6.0 already. Any ideas how far off 6.0-RELEASE may be? Realistically the O/S has become the least important issue on these servers; they're basically ldap/nss clients sharing data via samba from UFS file systems... a drop-in replacement

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/12/05, Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I did not realize that there was an RC1 out for 6.0 already. Any ideas how far off 6.0-RELEASE may be? Realistically the O/S has become the least important issue on these servers; they're basically ldap/nss clients sharing data via

AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread Joseph Sniderman
Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:46:48 -0500 Joseph Sniderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes! Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread Garrett Cooper
Joseph Sniderman wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes, but what what libs and programs you may install that are i386 based as opposed to 64-bit. You can seriously 'screw' up your system by having several programs be unrunnable if

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread RW
On Saturday 06 August 2005 21:37, Garrett Cooper wrote: Joseph Sniderman wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes, but what what libs and programs you may install that are i386 based as opposed to 64-bit. You can seriously 'screw' up

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 01:17:35AM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Me either. -current actually supports running i386 binaries in amd64 mode. Thats one of the processor's features. :-) You can't run amd64 binaries when booted into an i386 OS, of course.

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 01:17:35AM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Me either. -current actually supports running i386 binaries in amd64 mode. Thats one of the processor's features. :-) You can't run amd64 binaries when

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Remi
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:29 AM To: Kenneth Culver Cc: Michal Pasternak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David O'Brien Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: So far my athlon 64 3200+ has

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Daniel O'Connor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:58, Remi wrote: toward the 1.7GHz Centrino, but I hear a lot of problems with FreeBSD working right with Centrino, is this correct? What are the issues? Works fine here (Dell Inspiron 8600). - - Modem doesn't work (no

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Arne Schwabe
Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy. Im not sure how it works when switching 64 to i386, but they say it's not supported in the BIOS(I assume this is where it is suppose to be changed) So now I come to a cross

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy. Im not sure how it works when switching 64 to i386, but they say it's not supported in the BIOS(I assume this is where it is suppose to be changed) So now I come to a cross

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:36:27PM +0200, Arne Schwabe wrote: You can't change the cpu speed while running at the Moment, I don't see any other iusses at the Moment with my Notebook (IBM T40). I too have an IBM T40. It gives me much love, daily. BMS

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Doug White
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Kenneth Culver wrote: It runs OK, with some minor nits compared to x86 version. I'm not sure what the laptop maker is talking about... but if you boot the x86 version of FreeBSD, it'll work. I think they meant you can't switch from amd64 to x86 after already booting an

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Remi
: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:31 AM To: Remi Cc: 'Brooks Davis'; 'Michal Pasternak'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David O'Brien' Subject: RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Kenneth Culver wrote: It runs OK, with some minor nits compared to x86 version. I'm not sure what the laptop maker is talking about... but if you boot the x86 version of FreeBSD, it'll work. I think they meant you can't switch from amd64

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just to clarify exactly what you mean. I can the x86 version of BSD with no changes to the BIOS, jumpers or anything on an AMD64? Sorry in advanced if this is a stupid question, Ive never dealt with anything but x86 Yeah, no changes anywhere. I have my machine set

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Jon Noack
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Michal Pasternak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]: You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 2.8GHz running the same OS. ... but will it outperform it also

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: So far my athlon 64 3200+ has been one of the coolest running processors I've ever owned... although I've never used it in a laptop, my friend's p4 2.8 is running a lot hotter... Yes, current AMD64 CPUs are fairly lower power

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-27 Thread Remi
PROTECTED] Cc: Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run

AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread Remi
Hello, Im in the market for a new laptop. Right now I'm looking at HyperSonic laptops. I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the i386 would be easier to run, so I guess my question is what is the state of the

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 02:37:54PM -0700, Remi wrote: Im in the market for a new laptop. Right now I'm looking at HyperSonic laptops. I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the i386 would be easier to run,

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread Michal Pasternak
David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]: You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 2.8GHz running the same OS. ... but will it outperform it also by heat dissipation? -- m

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread Daniel O'Connor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the i386 would be easier to run, so I guess my question is what is the