Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 03:11:24PM -0700, Brent Wiese wrote: Is there a way to make the backup MX server understand that some mail is ultimately destined for it and try to deliver it locally? Here would be an example: Mydomain.com is MX'd to mail.mydomin.com, which handles email for all

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:39, Nico Meijer wrote: Regular folks don't understand how mail works. They have no clue whatsoever. They don't _want_ to have a clue either. They are just behaving like consumers, again. Do you *really* want to know what's on

RE: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-30 Thread Brent Wiese
That's the hard part. The Secondary MX'ing part is fairly easy. All you do is get your friend to add an MX record to the DNS 'yourfriend.com' zone listing your server as a high numbered MXer: $ORIGIN yourfriend.com. @ INMX 0 smtp.yourfriend.com.

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-28 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Bill, When I have a choice of punishing idiots or smart people, I punish idiots. When black mode is on, I just want to get them all. ;-) When I arrange fallback MX for people/organisations, they expect their mail to be handled in a delicate, perhaps even 'professional' manner. No mail may be

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Lynch
Nico Meijer wrote: Hey Bill, Are you saying that it's better for users not to know that their mail has been delayed? Unfortunately, yes. That is what I am saying. On a technical level, I totally disagree with myself. On a practical, day-to-day operations level I have to admit I'd rather

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Doug Hardie
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:39, Nico Meijer wrote: Regular folks don't understand how mail works. They have no clue whatsoever. They don't _want_ to have a clue either. They are just behaving like consumers, again. Do you *really* want to know what's on your plate at dinner? ;-) I do, maybe you too,

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Bill Moran
Nico Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Bill, Black mode is on, here. ;-) I'm not familiar with that metaphor. Are you saying that it's better for users not to know that their mail has been delayed? Unfortunately, yes. That is what I am saying. On a technical level, I totally

[OT] Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Doug, Point taken. Wrong example, imho, but point taken. ;-) They will have no problem convincing Joe Sub-Average juror (of which there will be more than enough to go around) that you were the cause of Joe Average computer users' loss of his entire retirement savings. I have just enough

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 01:38:15PM -0600, Bill Moran wrote: snip When I have a choice of punishing idiots or smart people, I punish idiots. This is excellent. It should be on a bumper sticker or something. snip Look at the vehicle situation. If people would force stupid drivers to

Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Eric Crist
Hello list, I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to having a remote backup mail server and the setup of such. I'm currently using sendmail, and I don't want to change that, so please don't recommend any of the other servers out there. ;) One of my friends needs backup DNS/Mail in the

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Bill Moran
Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to having a remote backup mail server and the setup of such. I'm currently using sendmail, and I don't want to change that, so please don't recommend any of the other servers out there. ;)

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 12:19:56PM -0500, Eric Crist wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to having a remote backup mail server and the setup of such. I'm currently using sendmail, and I don't want to change that, so please don't recommend any of the other servers out

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Chuck Swiger
Eric Crist wrote: [ ... ] One of my friends needs backup DNS/Mail in the even their connection goes down. How do I go about setting it up so that his user base (about 80 users) will not see any problems in mail transmission and reception if their primary servers go offline. I would like mine