Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-06 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 04:36:23PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:20:22 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: How well does it work to use binary packages only to maintain a FreeBSD web server in general (I am thinking of package availability, but also and in particular as a

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:47:03 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, so I have a friend who is looking for the best OS for a web server, that allows to configure services (I guess HTTP, PHP, MySQL and web content) and do the OS maintenance (OS package updates, firewall configuration)

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
On 09/05/2011 08:31 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:47:03 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, so I have a friend who is looking for the best OS for a web server, that allows to configure services (I guess HTTP, PHP, MySQL and web content) and do the OS maintenance (OS package

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:18:21 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: On 09/05/2011 08:31 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:47:03 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, so I have a friend who is looking for the best OS for a web server, that allows to configure services (I guess HTTP,

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
I just took a look at PBDir and the choice of PBIs for server-related softwares seems to be rather limited. They have a PBI for Apache, but I could not even find one for PHP... To me it seems that if not all the required softwares are available through PBI, it would be better to drop the whole

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:59:23 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: I just took a look at PBDir and the choice of PBIs for server-related softwares seems to be rather limited. Okay, that's understandable, as servers are not their main target. In fact, what do you need a GUI for on a server? - This is

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
How well does it work to use binary packages only to maintain a FreeBSD web server in general (I am thinking of package availability, but also and in particular as a quasi-automated updating tool)? I noticed that in the past few years, updating softwares through ports has been requiring more

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
If you really want. GUI based server, go for a Windows one. It will cost you but security has improved. I would never do it though but I manage my server with shell tools. I love the easiness of textbased config files ;) ___

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:20:22 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: How well does it work to use binary packages only to maintain a FreeBSD web server in general (I am thinking of package availability, but also and in particular as a quasi-automated updating tool)? Quite well - as long as you're

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:50:19 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: I noticed that in the past few years, updating softwares through ports has been requiring more user intervention, due to the way some dependencies are being updated from one version to the next. Would using binary packages

Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Outback Dingo
FreeBSD On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:47:03 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, so I have a friend who is looking for the best OS for a web server, that allows to configure services (I guess HTTP, PHP, MySQL and web content) and do

Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-04 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Hi, so I have a friend who is looking for the best OS for a web server, that allows to configure services (I guess HTTP, PHP, MySQL and web content) and do the OS maintenance (OS package updates, firewall configuration) without having to touch a shell. I was wondering if something like