Re: Boot-time hard drive errors

2013-02-25 Thread b w
This is not very helpful, but you can try Pause, Scroll Lock, high FPS
filming and pause or taking pictures with short exposure.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez 
mapsw...@prodigy.net.mx wrote:

 On Sunday 24 February 2013 14:33:06 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
  I have a somewhat eclectic system, currently running (or at any rate,
  trying to run) 9.1-RELEASE.  The system in question contains three
  drives, to wit:
 
 WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 05.01D05 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
 ST3500320AS SD1A ATA-8 SATA 1.x device
 Hitachi HTS541010A9E680 JA0OA480 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
 
  Previously, I had the ST3500320AS in this system, along with one other
  entirely different Seagate drive, i.e. one not shown in the list above.
  (Also, I was previously running 8.3-RELEASE and only recently updated
  to 9.1-RELEASE.)
 
  Since I reconfigured the system to its current state, i.e. with the set
  of three drives listed above, whenever I reboot the system, about 50%
  of the time, when the boot process gets down to the point where it
  would ordinarily be printing out the messages relating to ada0, ada1,
  etc. suddenly I start to get a massive and apparently endless stream
  of error messages, apparently relating to one of the drives listed
  above, but the stream actually alternates between two consecutive
  error messages, both undoubtedly related to each other.
 

 Does your HDD controller is SATA 3?

 I had a similar problem (some times could not boot) and was caused because
 my
 HDD controller is SATA 1

 Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller

 And my hard disk is SATA 2

 WDC WD2500AVVS-00L2B0 01.03A01

 The problem disapear when I lock the HDD at 150 MB/s (jumper settings the
 HDD
 to SATA 1)
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Boot-time hard drive errors

2013-02-24 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette


I have a somewhat eclectic system, currently running (or at any rate,
trying to run) 9.1-RELEASE.  The system in question contains three
drives, to wit:

   WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 05.01D05 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
   ST3500320AS SD1A ATA-8 SATA 1.x device
   Hitachi HTS541010A9E680 JA0OA480 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device

Previously, I had the ST3500320AS in this system, along with one other
entirely different Seagate drive, i.e. one not shown in the list above.
(Also, I was previously running 8.3-RELEASE and only recently updated
to 9.1-RELEASE.)

Since I reconfigured the system to its current state, i.e. with the set
of three drives listed above, whenever I reboot the system, about 50%
of the time, when the boot process gets down to the point where it
would ordinarily be printing out the messages relating to ada0, ada1,
etc. suddenly I start to get a massive and apparently endless stream
of error messages, apparently relating to one of the drives listed
above, but the stream actually alternates between two consecutive
error messages, both undoubtedly related to each other.

The boot process never completes, and I am just left staring at a
screen that's displaying, in very rapid succession, first the one
error message and then the other, and then the first one again, and
then the second one again, and on and on like that.

Unfortunately, the two error messages are being printed on the screen
so fast (and alternating, as described above) that I cannot even read
them, but I could just barely make out that they seem to relate to ada2...
well, anyway, one or another of the hard drives.

I do not know the proper way to rectify whatever is causing these flaky
errors.  I use the term flaky because, as I have said, this boot-time
problem only seems to occur maybe about 50% of the time, and the rest
of the time when I boot up there is no problem whatsoever.

Because I am able to boot up successfully, with no problems whatsoever,
a significant fraction of the time, I am inclined to think that whatever
is causing the failure is not actually a hardware fault.  (And by the way,
the WDC drive and the Hitachi drive are both practically brand new.  That
doesn't prove anything, of course, but it does make me think that they
are unlikely to have serious hardware faults.)

I would report this problem by filing a standard PR, but as I've said
above, I can't even read the error messages, because they are being
printed in such rapid succession, so I'm not sure that filing a PR
would be useful to anybody.  I mean what would it say?  That I'm getting
some unspecified failure at boot time that seems to relate to the hard
drives in this system?  That kind of PR would clearly not be very helpful.

Has anyone else ever encountered symptoms like those I have listed
above, either with 9.1-RELEASE or with any other version of FreeBSD?


Regards,
rfg
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Re: Boot-time hard drive errors

2013-02-24 Thread Simon


Have you tried Pause/Break to see if you could feeze the screen to get the
error message?

I would stress test all three drives to see if they pass with flying colors. One
or more of your drives could be indeed flaky, regardless being new, that means
little. Also, something could be conflicting from time to time, that could also
show up under stress testing.

Make backup if you have important data before stress testing.

-Simon

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:33:06 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:



I have a somewhat eclectic system, currently running (or at any rate,
trying to run) 9.1-RELEASE.  The system in question contains three
drives, to wit:

   WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 05.01D05 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
   ST3500320AS SD1A ATA-8 SATA 1.x device
   Hitachi HTS541010A9E680 JA0OA480 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device

Previously, I had the ST3500320AS in this system, along with one other
entirely different Seagate drive, i.e. one not shown in the list above.
(Also, I was previously running 8.3-RELEASE and only recently updated
to 9.1-RELEASE.)

Since I reconfigured the system to its current state, i.e. with the set
of three drives listed above, whenever I reboot the system, about 50%
of the time, when the boot process gets down to the point where it
would ordinarily be printing out the messages relating to ada0, ada1,
etc. suddenly I start to get a massive and apparently endless stream
of error messages, apparently relating to one of the drives listed
above, but the stream actually alternates between two consecutive
error messages, both undoubtedly related to each other.

The boot process never completes, and I am just left staring at a
screen that's displaying, in very rapid succession, first the one
error message and then the other, and then the first one again, and
then the second one again, and on and on like that.

Unfortunately, the two error messages are being printed on the screen
so fast (and alternating, as described above) that I cannot even read
them, but I could just barely make out that they seem to relate to ada2...
well, anyway, one or another of the hard drives.

I do not know the proper way to rectify whatever is causing these flaky
errors.  I use the term flaky because, as I have said, this boot-time
problem only seems to occur maybe about 50% of the time, and the rest
of the time when I boot up there is no problem whatsoever.

Because I am able to boot up successfully, with no problems whatsoever,
a significant fraction of the time, I am inclined to think that whatever
is causing the failure is not actually a hardware fault.  (And by the way,
the WDC drive and the Hitachi drive are both practically brand new.  That
doesn't prove anything, of course, but it does make me think that they
are unlikely to have serious hardware faults.)

I would report this problem by filing a standard PR, but as I've said
above, I can't even read the error messages, because they are being
printed in such rapid succession, so I'm not sure that filing a PR
would be useful to anybody.  I mean what would it say?  That I'm getting
some unspecified failure at boot time that seems to relate to the hard
drives in this system?  That kind of PR would clearly not be very helpful.

Has anyone else ever encountered symptoms like those I have listed
above, either with 9.1-RELEASE or with any other version of FreeBSD?


Regards,
rfg
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Re: Boot-time hard drive errors

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez
On Sunday 24 February 2013 14:33:06 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
 I have a somewhat eclectic system, currently running (or at any rate,
 trying to run) 9.1-RELEASE.  The system in question contains three
 drives, to wit:

WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 05.01D05 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
ST3500320AS SD1A ATA-8 SATA 1.x device
Hitachi HTS541010A9E680 JA0OA480 ATA-8 SATA 3.x device

 Previously, I had the ST3500320AS in this system, along with one other
 entirely different Seagate drive, i.e. one not shown in the list above.
 (Also, I was previously running 8.3-RELEASE and only recently updated
 to 9.1-RELEASE.)

 Since I reconfigured the system to its current state, i.e. with the set
 of three drives listed above, whenever I reboot the system, about 50%
 of the time, when the boot process gets down to the point where it
 would ordinarily be printing out the messages relating to ada0, ada1,
 etc. suddenly I start to get a massive and apparently endless stream
 of error messages, apparently relating to one of the drives listed
 above, but the stream actually alternates between two consecutive
 error messages, both undoubtedly related to each other.


Does your HDD controller is SATA 3?

I had a similar problem (some times could not boot) and was caused because my 
HDD controller is SATA 1

Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller

And my hard disk is SATA 2

WDC WD2500AVVS-00L2B0 01.03A01

The problem disapear when I lock the HDD at 150 MB/s (jumper settings the HDD 
to SATA 1)
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