Re: Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-29 Thread Jorge Mario G.
 Hi there
I have a dell D600 and FreeBSD works with no problem
I think I had some problems with ACPI but then I fixed
that prob.
I dont have the intel wireless card I have the
broadcom one and it works very nice with the patches
from the Evil project (aka DNISulator)


Jorge

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Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-26 Thread Robert Storey
I recently purchased a new laptop, an IBM X31 ThinkPad, which uses the Centrino 
processor. I had high expectations for this machine.

Alas, my expectations have been shattered. All attempts at installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 
quickly end with a crash. Interestingly, I have an old FBSD 4.8 CD - that installs 
fine. Lest anybody think my 5.2.1 CDR is bad, I went and downloaded it a second time, 
plus I also tried a network install. Failure every time.

Nor is the problem limited to FreeBSD. MEPIS Linux crashes during the install as well. 
Knoppix Linux installed but dmesg was putting out lots of error messages (for example, 
it could not mount a journaled ext3 partition, so it mounted as ext2). In the end, I 
got Knoppix to install and run reliably only by using the older 2.4.26 kernel and by 
disabling APIC.

After doing some Googling and seeing that others were having issues, my suspicion is 
that Centrino's power management features are to blame. But I could be wrong.

So I guess my question is this: Has anybody here gotten FreeBSD 5.2.1 to install on a 
Centrino laptop? If so, did you need to do anything special to make it work? Any tips, 
tricks or hints I should try? Or should I just wait for FreeBSD 5.3 to come out and 
hope it works? Or should I file a PR?

If others are not having problems with the Centrino chip, I might to back to IBM and 
demand that they replace the motherboard, but I tend to think they'll just tell me to 
reinstall Windows XP and all will be well. There is indeed a sticker on the laptop 
saying Made for Microsoft Windows XP (well, there was, I ripped the sticker off, but 
I still can't install FreeBSD).

best regards,
Robert

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Re: Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-26 Thread Phil Reynolds
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 02:39:12PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
 So I guess my question is this: Has anybody here gotten FreeBSD 5.2.1 to install on 
 a Centrino laptop? If so, did you need to do anything special to make it work? Any 
 tips, tricks or hints I should try? Or should I just wait for FreeBSD 5.3 to come 
 out and hope it works? Or should I file a PR?

Well, I haven't tried FreeBSD on my Centrino-based machine but use Linux
on it with no problem, as far as every day operation goes. Wireless
networking is a little unreliable but still very usable. I use a 2.6
kernel.

If I had another machine of the same type, I would try FreeBSD for you -
not heard of anyone doing so though.

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Re: Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-26 Thread jqdkf
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 02:39:12PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
 I recently purchased a new laptop, an IBM X31 ThinkPad, which uses the Centrino 
 processor. I had high expectations for this machine.
 
 Alas, my expectations have been shattered. All attempts at installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 
 quickly end with a crash. Interestingly, I have an old FBSD 4.8 CD - that installs 
 fine. Lest anybody think my 5.2.1 CDR is bad, I went and downloaded it a second 
 time, plus I also tried a network install. Failure every time.
 ...

My laptop is R40 with a centrino CPU. I bought it a year ago and began
to use FreeBSD-current until now. Centrino is not a problem, and I can
also use the wireless card with ndis module. I should say that 5.2 has a
lot of great features and can support more new devices, but it is still
not very stable. By the way, I didn't install 5.2 directly from CD, but
upgraded from a 5.1 disc. 

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Re: Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-26 Thread Michael W. Oliver
[please wrap your lines at 80 chars; 72 would be very nice]

On 2004-06-26T14:39:12+0800, Robert Storey wrote:
 I recently purchased a new laptop, an IBM X31 ThinkPad, which uses the
 Centrino processor. I had high expectations for this machine.
 
 Alas, my expectations have been shattered. All attempts at installing
 FreeBSD 5.2.1 quickly end with a crash. Interestingly, I have an old
 FBSD 4.8 CD - that installs fine. Lest anybody think my 5.2.1 CDR is
 bad, I went and downloaded it a second time, plus I also tried a
 network install. Failure every time.
 

First, I would suggest posting this message to the mobile@ list, as you
will surely get more hits over there.

Second, I remember quite a few people talking about 5.2.1 on ThinkPads,
and having to set the following in /boot/loader.conf:

hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range=1

I hope that this helps.

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Re: Centrino - Made for Microsoft Windows XP?

2004-06-26 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 26 June 2004 02:39 am, Robert Storey wrote:
 I recently purchased a new laptop, an IBM X31 ThinkPad, which uses the
 Centrino processor. I had high expectations for this machine.

 Alas, my expectations have been shattered. All attempts at installing
 FreeBSD 5.2.1 quickly end with a crash. Interestingly, I have an old FBSD
 4.8 CD - that installs fine. Lest anybody think my 5.2.1 CDR is bad, I went
 and downloaded it a second time, plus I also tried a network install.
 Failure every time.

 Nor is the problem limited to FreeBSD. MEPIS Linux crashes during the
 install as well. Knoppix Linux installed but dmesg was putting out lots of
 error messages (for example, it could not mount a journaled ext3 partition,
 so it mounted as ext2). In the end, I got Knoppix to install and run
 reliably only by using the older 2.4.26 kernel and by disabling APIC.

 After doing some Googling and seeing that others were having issues, my
 suspicion is that Centrino's power management features are to blame. But I
 could be wrong.

 So I guess my question is this: Has anybody here gotten FreeBSD 5.2.1 to
 install on a Centrino laptop? If so, did you need to do anything special to
 make it work? Any tips, tricks or hints I should try? Or should I just wait
 for FreeBSD 5.3 to come out and hope it works? Or should I file a PR?

 If others are not having problems with the Centrino chip, I might to back
 to IBM and demand that they replace the motherboard, but I tend to think
 they'll just tell me to reinstall Windows XP and all will be well. There is
 indeed a sticker on the laptop saying Made for Microsoft Windows XP
 (well, there was, I ripped the sticker off, but I still can't install
 FreeBSD).

5.2.1 Here on a Dell Inspiron 600M with Centrino.  All OK ACPI-wise. Won't 
talk to my SCSI Adaptec 1460 card and won't talk to the internal wireless 
adapter.

No special setup on 5.2.1.  I had a Dell Inspiron 4000 before and lots of ACPI 
troubles. I had to select the #2 choice on the boot menu to even boot it.

-- 
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