Cheap Hardware for Home Network
I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - for less than$600 (and the less, the better). I was wondering what sort of hardware setups people could recommend? Priceis the #1 consideration, followed by reliability, then speed. But that doesn't mean I want to neglect the latter two- what sort of specs should I be shooting for? What is necessary for the kind of activities I want to do. I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying around that I can stick in, but because I want to use 2 SATA 150 hardrives in RAID 1, finding an AGP 4X mobo with 754 and SATA w/ RAID 1 is neigh impossible. So it looks like my best bet is to find a mobo with onboard gigabit ethernet, video, and sound (only the first of which is important), but that still limits me apropos the 754 cpu and the SATA. So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? Thanks - JNK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
On 10/9/05, Live-Wire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - for less than$600 (and the less, the better). I was wondering what sort of hardware setups people could recommend? Priceis the #1 consideration, followed by reliability, then speed. But that doesn't mean I want to neglect the latter two- what sort of specs should I be shooting for? What is necessary for the kind of activities I want to do. I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying around that I can stick in, but because I want to use 2 SATA 150 hardrives in RAID 1, finding an AGP 4X mobo with 754 and SATA w/ RAID 1 is neigh impossible. So it looks like my best bet is to find a mobo with onboard gigabit ethernet, video, and sound (only the first of which is important), but that still limits me apropos the 754 cpu and the SATA. So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? Thanks - JNK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have Gigabyte K8VT800 Pro motherboard (http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Products/Products_GA-K8VT800%20Pro.htm) and Sempron 2500+ (256Kb cache, 64-bit, SSE3) on my file-server. For me - it's a wonderful combination. With an updated BIOS firmware it supports up to 10 disk devices (8 IDE + 2 SATA), Gigabit network and is rock-solid. I run FreeBSD/i386 on it, but I tried amd64 before - and it works great. It's quite cheap ($60 for the board, $60 for the box version of the CPU), and it certainly rocks, believe me. BTW, it should support your Ti 4600! Cheerz, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:18, Live-Wire wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? The system you mention seems to be completly out of step with what you want from it. If you want a server that's on most or all of the day and runs such an undemanding load, you would be better off checking out some cheap, slow , low-power machines. With a desktop machine such as you specify, the electrity may well be a major part of the total cost over several years. Low power cpus also run much quieter, with little or no fan noise. I don't see why you need graphics at all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
RW wrote: On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:18, Live-Wire wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? The system you mention seems to be completly out of step with what you want from it. If you want a server that's on most or all of the day and runs such an undemanding load, you would be better off checking out some cheap, slow , low-power machines. With a desktop machine such as you specify, the electrity may well be a major part of the total cost over several years. Low power cpus also run much quieter, with little or no fan noise. I don't see why you need graphics at all. Correct - for a very long time, I used a Compaq Small Form Factor (450 Mhz w/256 RAM and 10 gig drive and a 4 meg video) to do just about what the op is asking for. Now adays, he could find nearly the same hardware in a complete box for in the 50 - 100 dollar range. I agree - what he has now is overkill for what he wants to do. What he has now would make a nice workstation tho. -- Best regards, Chris When you do not know what you are going, do it neatly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 01:56:52PM +0100, RW wrote: On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:18, Live-Wire wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? The system you mention seems to be completly out of step with what you want from it. If you want a server that's on most or all of the day and runs such an undemanding load, you would be better off checking out some cheap, slow , low-power machines. With a desktop machine such as you specify, the electrity may well be a major part of the total cost over several years. Low power cpus also run much quieter, with little or no fan noise. I don't see why you need graphics at all. Agreed. I have a machine based around a VIA ME6000 Mini-ITX board serving NFS, Samba, printing, DNS, DHCP, NIS, HTTP, SMTP, IMAP, etc. for my home network and a few outside users. This board has a 600MHz VIA Eden CPU (fanless - completely silent) and even this is way overkill for what I'm using it for. The only thing that uses any real CPU bandwidth is SpamAssassin. A friend has a 200MHz Pentium Pro machine doing much the same job. This too is more than adequate, although it could use a bit more RAM. Both of these machines are running headless - no need for graphics. A cheap used laptop is also a possibility for this kind of thing. IMHO your top priority should be reliability - this is a machine that will be on all the time, you'll come to rely on it, so it will be a complete pain when it falls over, especially if you're not physically there to reboot it. You might want to think about running mirrored disks, so you don't lose the whole machine when a disk dies, as it inevitably will. Cheers, Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
On 10/10/05, Live-Wire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew P. wrote: On 10/9/05, Live-Wire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - for less than$600 (and the less, the better). I was wondering what sort of hardware setups people could recommend? Priceis the #1 consideration, followed by reliability, then speed. But that doesn't mean I want to neglect the latter two- what sort of specs should I be shooting for? What is necessary for the kind of activities I want to do. I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying around that I can stick in, but because I want to use 2 SATA 150 hardrives in RAID 1, finding an AGP 4X mobo with 754 and SATA w/ RAID 1 is neigh impossible. So it looks like my best bet is to find a mobo with onboard gigabit ethernet, video, and sound (only the first of which is important), but that still limits me apropos the 754 cpu and the SATA. So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? Thanks - JNK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have Gigabyte K8VT800 Pro motherboard (http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Products/Products_GA-K8VT800%20Pro.htm) and Sempron 2500+ (256Kb cache, 64-bit, SSE3) on my file-server. For me - it's a wonderful combination. With an updated BIOS firmware it supports up to 10 disk devices (8 IDE + 2 SATA), Gigabit network and is rock-solid. I run FreeBSD/i386 on it, but I tried amd64 before - and it works great. It's quite cheap ($60 for the board, $60 for the box version of the CPU), and it certainly rocks, believe me. BTW, it should support your Ti 4600! Cheerz, Andrew P. Thanks Andrew, but just one question: the specs claim only to have 4 IDE slots in addition to the 2 SATA, not 8. Am I looking at the same thing as you? Thanks, JNK 4 IDE slots allow for up to 8 devices, 2 SATA slots allow 2 devices, that sums up to 10. Have a nice day, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network
On 10/9/2005 2:18 AM Live-Wire wrote: I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on my home network; dns, qmail, apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services, like apache, will also be exposed to the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most important, I'm doing this all on the cheap - for less than$600 (and the less, the better). I was wondering what sort of hardware setups people could recommend? Priceis the #1 consideration, followed by reliability, then speed. But that doesn't mean I want to neglect the latter two- what sort of specs should I be shooting for? What is necessary for the kind of activities I want to do. I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying around that I can stick in, but because I want to use 2 SATA 150 hardrives in RAID 1, finding an AGP 4X mobo with 754 and SATA w/ RAID 1 is neigh impossible. So it looks like my best bet is to find a mobo with onboard gigabit ethernet, video, and sound (only the first of which is important), but that still limits me apropos the 754 cpu and the SATA. So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero concern for expandability. What is the best fit? You're going way overboard for your requirements. I'm running all of this and more on an old Pentium III 600mhz machine. You can probably get the machine you need for free if you ask around. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]