Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-03 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The squid developers recommend aufs: http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-users/200709/0150.html Most people seem to regard it as stable. at most 1 hour before crash on my system with 300 users served, many version tested, none worked. possibly it doesn't under linux or under

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread RW
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:26:16 -0700 Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I'll look up the diskd docs for squid, and see what that's all about. I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. The three cache types: ufs,aufs and diskd are all the same on disk. diskd is ufs with

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. The three cache types: ufs,aufs and diskd are all the same on disk. diskd is ufs with extra processes to handle disk access, aufs uses threads instead. i don't know what is preferred. i know what works. only ufs and diskd is reliable,

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread RW
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. i don't know what is preferred. i know what works. only ufs and diskd is reliable, The squid developers recommend aufs:

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as RAID 1 with the third as a hot spare, and two drives as RAID0 - I intend to put the squid cache on the latter, and have mounted it as /squid. it would be better to turn off RAID at all and use all five disks as fine squid partitions.

RE: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Tandon, Sahil (IM)
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the need. And I couldn't get 7 to install on my brand new machine. Once I got the 6.3 amd64 build it went in without an issue. Just because you could not install 7.0 does not mean 7.0 is flawed. I don't see the reason to run the latest

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
less capable whitebox. One of the big issues I've had has manifested itself recently - we've moved from a T1 to a DS3, and while overall throughput has increased dramatically, people are now complaining that the Internet is slow, which I've found is all down to initial page load. I'm pursuing

Fwd: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
Sorry. This should also have been sent to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Configuring an older server for speed... To: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Wojciech

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as RAID 1 with the third as a hot spare, and two drives as RAID0 - I intend to put the squid cache on the latter, and have mounted it as /squid. it would be better to

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I've got a Compaq ML570 with 2gb RAM, dual PIII Xeon 700s and 5x10k RPM drives in it attached to a Compaq 5300 RAID card that I'm going to be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as RAID 1 with the third as

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Bertrand
Matthew Seaman wrote: should we use 7 or think about going with 6.3? I'd go with 7.x every time. It wipes the floor with 6.3 performance-wise and it is just as stable and bug-free as you'ld expect from FreeBSD. You've seen it works for you: there's no conceivable reason to downgrade. I

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: should we use 7 or think about going with 6.3? I'd go with 7.x every time. It wipes the floor with 6.3 performance-wise and it is just as stable and bug-free as you'ld expect from FreeBSD.

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I'm hoping that 137gb striped across two RAID0 volumes should be sufficient space for our needs, and also hoping that it will be faster than individual drives. there is NO point to assume it will be faster than sum of speed of each drive, with program that already have logic to spread load

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
As a benchmark, there are about 230 people in my site who will be it's strange. my squid supports 300 users, with just 3 partitions on 3 drives (and other part of drives used for other things). and it EASILY do this. To further extend the question - what about things like mounting the RAID0

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Steve It's been suggested off-list that I put up a caching DNS server. I'm in the process of doing that. Initial page load delay, however, is a new phenomenon, cropping up after our move from the T1 to the DS3, so I was putting it down to increased use of cache - I'm certainly willing to be

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve It's been suggested off-list that I put up a caching DNS server. I'm in the process of doing that. Initial page load delay, however, is a new phenomenon, cropping up after our move from the T1 to the DS3, so I

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
it's strange at least you haven't it already for a long time. no matter you use squid or not. it takes 5 minutes to set up, and saves a bit of bandwidth and a lot of time on resolving hostnames I just looked at my configuration - looks like I had it going at one point, but disabled it, and I

Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Kurt Buff
All, I've got a Compaq ML570 with 2gb RAM, dual PIII Xeon 700s and 5x10k RPM drives in it attached to a Compaq 5300 RAID card that I'm going to be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as RAID 1 with the third as a hot spare, and two drives as RAID0 - I intend to put the squid cache

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Ryan Coleman
Kurt Buff wrote: All, I've got a Compaq ML570 with 2gb RAM, dual PIII Xeon 700s and 5x10k RPM drives in it attached to a Compaq 5300 RAID card that I'm going to be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as RAID 1 with the third as a hot spare, and two drives as RAID0 - I intend to

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread prad
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:39:05 -0500 Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend fBSD 6.3 instead of 7. You don't need it, unless you have a documented reason it has to be 7.0 really?! i thought 7 was supposed to be a big improvement over 6.3: Dramatic improvements in performance

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread David Gurvich
There are improvements in the wireless system and in locking. One of the most interesting is the possibility of using zfs and dtrace from Solaris. Many of these features have undiscovered bugs that you might prefer not discovering on your own server. For desktop and laptop use I would certainly

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread prad
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:17:05 -0400 David Gurvich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of these features have undiscovered bugs that you might prefer not discovering on your own server. oh oh. but what if we are just running a plain webserver (mainly static html) and email. we are sticking to ufs of

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: All, I've got a Compaq ML570 with 2gb RAM, dual PIII Xeon 700s and 5x10k RPM drives in it attached to a Compaq 5300 RAID card that I'm going to be using as a squid box. I've configured two drives as

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Sahil Tandon
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: [...] I would recommend fBSD 6.3 instead of 7. You don't need it, unless you have a documented reason it has to be 7.0 Please qualify that recommendation; as it stands, it is pure FUD. -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Ryan Coleman
Sahil Tandon wrote: Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: [...] I would recommend fBSD 6.3 instead of 7. You don't need it, unless you have a documented reason it has to be 7.0 Please qualify that recommendation; as it stands, it is pure FUD. I don't

Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-06-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
prad wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:17:05 -0400 David Gurvich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of these features have undiscovered bugs that you might prefer not discovering on your own server. oh oh. but what if we are just running a plain webserver (mainly static html) and email. we are