Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread Warren
After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .. i 
now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the NTFS 
hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblows ?
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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread Thomas Leveille
On 7/7/05, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .. i
 now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the NTFS
 hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblows ?
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 Yours Sincerely
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 http://www.shinji.nq.nu
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There's a or ntfs writing is very limited under freebsd. I wouldn't
try if I were you (see the man page on the link) :
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfsapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+5.4-RELEASE+and+Portsformat=html

If you don't have a windows install, you can try using a Linux LiveCD
which includes captive-ntfs. You need a few dll from windows xp but I
think there's a setup which download the windows xp sp1 for you to
retrieve them automatically. But it's not a viable solution if you
plan to copy files to the ntfs partition on a regular basis. I assume
you are in a dual boot environment. I suggest you to format the
external drive in fat32 if you want it to be readable by both Windows
and FreeBSD.

link to captive-ntfs :
http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread Steven Enderle

Warren wrote:

After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .. i 
now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the NTFS 
hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblows ?
 

You are right, ntfs with freebsd is not writeable. You could switch to 
smaller FAT32 partitions, thats how i do it.


Regards

Steven
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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread datora tehnika
Two days ago I was trying to pre-emptively solve this problem.  A
couple quickie comments that may help out at some point, plus related
questions :

I tried to format a new hard drive using Win2K, knowing there were
issues w/ NTFS under *BSD.  So, decided to format using FAT32 under
disk management.  It failed three times (only after wasting 30 mins or
so ''formatting'').  First, I selected 512 byte sectors .. they were
''too small.''  Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size
was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which
served as a Win98 drive without a blurp).  Last FAT32 effort I chose
teh remaining 1024 byte sector option with same result as 512 byte
option.

Of course, win2K was too stupid  lazy to evaluate these problems
prior to committing to format  actually pretending to do it ...

So, I am assuming that for future, I would use Win98 to create a FAT32
data partition that can be shared by Win/linux  *BSD.  Or, possibly
*BSD or linux to create such .. but I have my doubts regarding Win
being able to access such.


So, the question portion I wasn't able to answer through various
google searches :

Win insisted on ''writing a signature'' to the new drive (not used to
install an OS .. just format as one large volume for data storage).  I
finally relented  let it since I was unable to find out what such a
''signature'' is and, more importantly, couldn't locate a utility that
would allow me to write a signature (or its equivalent) to the drive.

Will this affect my ability to let *BSD read the drive later ..?  What
is this ''signature'' thingie, and what is the lingo for it under
linux/*BSD?  Is there a utility that I can run under Win or from a
bootable floppy that would let me intitate a virgin drive ?  Maybe
even partition  format in a ''universal'' FAT32 for DOS/Win/*nix/*BSD
to all access for dfata read/writes?

Other question on this is that I understand that linux has solutions
to read/write to ntfs.  Should *BSD not be able to emulate enough
linux to use such a function ..?  Linux  Win emulation are sold
pretty hard as one of the positive points about *BSD.  I was going
with the FAT32 solution to simplify my life, not because I thought it
was required.

BTW, I had to format as NTFS since Win2K is my only option for the
moment; first time I ever tried to use WinNT to format a volume or
drive as FAT32  was strikingly unsurprised when it failed at such a
banal task.  I am now operating under the assumption I must reformat
later to use with *nix/*BSD, so this thread is quite interesting to me
so I can do it right the next time .. hopefully within a week to ten
days.

  --  datora
serfing the stream electric
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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread Igor Robul

datora tehnika wrote:


''too small.''  Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size
was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which
 

This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create FAT32 
with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will be able 
to access disk.


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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread datora tehnika
On 7/7/05, Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 datora tehnika wrote:
 
 ''too small.''  Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size
 was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which
 
 This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create FAT32
 with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will be able
 to access disk.

Nice to have a recipe to get the porridge just right.  ;-)

I'm gonna take a stab at it over the next couple of days  I'll post
results, but I _think_ I can get the Win98 fdisk onto a bootable
floppy and then FAT32  partition a hard drive from there.  I seem to
recall having done it about four years back, but i'm a bit fuzzy on
the details at this moment.  Need to pull my Win98 CD  some old tech
references.

THANKS !

  --  datora
serfing the stream electric
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Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim


On Jul 7, 2005, at 7:07 AM, Igor Robul wrote:


datora tehnika wrote:


''too small.''  Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size
was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which

This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create 
FAT32 with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will 
be able to access disk.


I know it isn't what one would probably want to hear as a solution, but 
there are two other possibilities...


Purchase a cheap Windows system to act as a file server on your home 
network, and you can share data using CIFS, or...


Create a partition for Windows to share data with FreeBSD, and use an 
IFS driver to access it in a neutral filesystem, like EXT3 (something 
like http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm ).


Depending on what you're using Windows for, you could also look into 
running something like VMWare on FreeBSD.


Personally, just for less hassle down the road, I'd personally opt for 
the second machine and use file shares to share data.  But that's just 
me...


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RE: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd

2005-07-07 Thread John Brooks
WinNT does not support FAT32

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 BTW, I had to format as NTFS since Win2K is my only option for the
 moment; first time I ever tried to use WinNT to format a volume or
 drive as FAT32  was strikingly unsurprised when it failed at such a
 banal task.  I am now operating under the assumption I must reformat
 later to use with *nix/*BSD, so this thread is quite interesting to me
 so I can do it right the next time .. hopefully within a week to ten
 days.
 

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