Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
ive been working on a pair of test boxes today, and 2 daemons in a row,
have installed from ports without the .sh on the end of their startup
script.

ive done tons of installs on these test boxes, what am i all of a sudden
doing wrong?  the only thing im doing different is (what i thinkn is just)
syntax.

before:
cd /usr/ports/mail/dovecot
make install distclean

now:
cd /usr/ports/mail/dovecot; make install distclean

saslthaud did the same thing just a while a go.  this happend on 2 boxes
simultaneously!

thanks,
Jonathan Horne

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Re: Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ive been working on a pair of test boxes today, and 2 daemons in a row,
 have installed from ports without the .sh on the end of their startup
 script.
 
 ive done tons of installs on these test boxes, what am i all of a sudden
 doing wrong?

Nothing is wrong.
See man rc.
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Re: Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
 Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ive been working on a pair of test boxes today, and 2 daemons in a row,
 have installed from ports without the .sh on the end of their startup
 script.

 ive done tons of installs on these test boxes, what am i all of a sudden
 doing wrong?

 Nothing is wrong.
 See man rc.

well, only reason im asking, as in all my previous test boxes, the start
up scripts seemed to initially appear in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ already with
the .sh on them.  ive done dovecot and sasl2 a ton of times, its just
seems odd that they start this behavior all of a sudden.

jonathan

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Re: Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Jonathan Horne wrote:


Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   


ive been working on a pair of test boxes today, and 2 daemons in a row,
have installed from ports without the .sh on the end of their startup
script.

ive done tons of installs on these test boxes, what am i all of a sudden
doing wrong?
 


Nothing is wrong.
See man rc.
   



well, only reason im asking, as in all my previous test boxes, the start
up scripts seemed to initially appear in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ already with
the .sh on them.  ive done dovecot and sasl2 a ton of times, its just
seems odd that they start this behavior all of a sudden.
 

There are changes going on to how rc scripts work: basically, making 
/usr/local/etc/rc.d work just like /etc/rc.d with full rcNG 
functionality (REQUIRE, PROVIDES etc).  Scripts which worked like that 
would no longer end in .sh as per rc man page description for /etc/rc.d


Check out the recent discussions on freebsd-rc mailing list from the 
archives.


If you believe that the new scripts are wrong, I would suggest asking on 
freebsd-rc.  Maybe some ports have been updated in advance or wrongly or 
something, but I would think that freebsd-rc was the right place to start.


--Alex


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Re: Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Jonathan Horne wrote:


well if its an official change in procedure, i have no problem with
adapting.  the reason it raised my eyebrow today, aside from happening on
2 boxes at the same time, same daemons, but vsftpd did the same thing last
weekend when i compiled the port after latest cvsup.  vsftpd needed to
vsftpd.sh for it to start at boot (with vsftpd_enable=YES in
/etc/rc.conf).  while i did not reboot my test boxes to see whether or not
dovecot and saslauthd did or did not start at boot without the .sh on
their scripts, it still wondered what was going on.

i have several more additional daemons to compile in today, it will be
interesting to see their installation behavior as well.
 

My understanding is that the changes were going to be done in a 
backwards-compatible way so if something didn't work out-of-the-box 
for you then there may be something wrong somewhere.  I don't know 
enough to say what, if anything, is wrong with those ports.


What I thought was that *you* wouldn't have to adapt at all, unless you 
write or maintain a port, but that port maintainers would have to change 
over to the new style.  I thought it was also going to stay compatible 
with the old style, since 5.X won't, as I understand it, get the 
changes.  But ports still have to work on 5.X, one would hope!


--Alex


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OT: Curious behavior today

2006-04-18 Thread Bob Goodman
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ive been working on a pair of test boxes today, and 2 daemons in a
row,
have installed from ports without the .sh on the end of their
startup
script.

ive done tons of installs on these test boxes, what am i all of a
sudden
doing wrong?  the only thing im doing different is (what i thinkn
is just)
syntax.

before:
cd /usr/ports/mail/dovecot
make install distclean

now:
cd /usr/ports/mail/dovecot; make install distclean

saslthaud did the same thing just a while a go.  this happend on 2
boxes
simultaneously!

thanks,
Jonathan Horne

A question off topic: what would you say about dovecot
in terms of performance?

Bob Goodman
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