Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-18 Thread Bob @ Brisbane
This is from my apana address. I get both the item to me and also the one 
from the list.

Bob Willson
- Original Message - 
From: Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions



gday,

sending this to both of your addresses, and -questions.  You should get
three.  If you reply, esp from your apana address, I could check a) that
you can post to me at least :) and b) see what the headers suggest about
reverse IP resolution.



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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-16 Thread Ian Smith
Hi Bob.  I got the mail from your yahoo address too.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Bob @ Brisbane wrote:

  Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au ([203.185.225.22])

As suspected, our sendmail was unable to reverse resolve this SMTP
sender's IP address, or it would have included it between the ()
brackets, see below.  That first gargoyle.apana.org.au string is just
the HELO gargoyle sent (which can be forged, but presumably isn't :) 

Our MX accepted your unresolvable address anyway (ie not blacklisted
specifically) but it appears that mx*.freebsd.org will not - or at
least your message didn't make the latest questions-digest received
here just recently.

   by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with ESMTP id JAA07721
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:48:31 +1100 (EST)
   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Received: from bob (jwillson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.224])

Whereas gargoyle, also a (later) sendmail, reverse resolved your box ok. 

   by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id k0FMlwkk072910;
   Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:47:58 +1000 (EST)
   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Bob @ Brisbane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions
  Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:48:29 +1000
[..]
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

In this case, Outcast Distress is not the problem :)

  This is from my apana address. I get both the item to me and also the one 
  from the list.

Presumably because our reverse IP is working.  But apana's is not :(
Suggest contacting support etc ASAP.  Copy my mail to 'em if it helps.

Cheers, Ian

  Bob Willson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:12 AM
  Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions
[..]

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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-15 Thread Ian Smith
gday,

sending this to both of your addresses, and -questions.  You should get
three.  If you reply, esp from your apana address, I could check a) that
you can post to me at least :) and b) see what the headers suggest about
reverse IP resolution.

Micah said:

I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/
freebsd.org list.  I can't track down the emails right now, but I
believe it was either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or freebsd-questions-owner@
who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues.  With his help I
emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was
surprised!)  So you should probably start by emailing one of the address
I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem.

And Chris wrote:

Normally this happens when your mail server doesnt reversly resolve to the 
domain name so if mail.i13i.com doesnt reverse to mail.i13i.com
freebsd.org's mailing lists will reject the mail. As this happened when i
was hosting my site using my DSL wasnt until i got a ded that i relaised
what it was.

Seems the problem is indeed (at least temporarily) APANA's reverse DNS:

gaia: {301} dig -x 203.3.126.1

;  DiG 2.2  -x
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 6
   
;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 0, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;;  1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN

;; Total query time: 73580 msec
 ^
which most likely explains why freebsd.org's mx is ignoring your mail.

Probably worth mailing Matt Geier as suggested, and your local Brisbane
apana tech bods; I expect they'll want to know ..

Oh, it's worse than that .. ns.apana.org.au seems currently broken:

smithi on paqi% dig @ns.apana.org.au. -x 203.3.126.1
[..]
;; res_nsend to server ns.apana.org.au.  192.188.107.12: Operation timed
out

smithi on paqi% dig @ns.apana.org.au. apana.org.au
[..]
;; res_nsend to server ns.apana.org.au.  192.188.107.12: Operation timed
out

Trying another apana.org.au listed ns:

gaia: {304} dig @warrane.connect.com.au. -x 203.3.126.1
[..]
;; QUESTIONS:
;;  1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa.   43200   RP support.brisbane.apana.org.au.
1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa.   43200   TXT APANA Brisbane
1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa.   43200   PTR gargoyle.apana.org.au.

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200   NS  yarrina.connect.com.au.
126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200   NS  ns.apana.org.au.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
yarrina.connect.com.au. 3600A   192.189.54.17
ns.apana.org.au.3600A   192.188.107.12

.. but ns.apana.org.au fails to provide that PTR response right now ..
unless apana has _my_ server blacklisted of course :)

I'd be mailing that RP too (guess it's [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Cheers, Ian
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Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Bob Willson
Hello
 
I have been trying to ask questions of this forum for
some time now but my questions seem to vanish into the
wild blue ether.  :(
 
It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and the
one which I registered) is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to see
 if this works.

Bob Willson



 
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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Gerard Seibert
Bob Willson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello
  
 I have been trying to ask questions of this forum for
 some time now but my questions seem to vanish into the
 wild blue ether.  :(
  
 It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
 this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and the
 one which I registered) is:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to see
  if this works.
 
 Bob Willson


I tried running it through SPAMCOP, and this is what I got back.

Parsing input: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
203.3.126.1 is an mx ( 10 ) for brisbane.apana.org.au
host 203.3.126.1 = gargoyle.apana.org.au (cached)
No recent reports, no history available
203.3.126.1 is an mx ( 10 ) for brisbane.apana.org.au
Routing details for 203.3.126.1
Reports routes for 203.3.126.1:
routeid:17573795 203.3.124.0 - 203.3.127.255 to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Administrator found from whois records
[refresh/show] Cached whois for 203.3.126.1 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tracking details
whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net mirror)
Display data:
mg75-ap = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whois.apnic.net 203.3.126.1 = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whois: 203.3.124.0 - 203.3.127.255 = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Routing details for 203.3.126.1
Using last resort contacts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using last resort contacts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Statistics:
203.3.126.1 not listed in bl.spamcop.net
More Information..
203.3.126.1 not listed in dnsbl.njabl.org
203.3.126.1 not listed in dnsbl.njabl.org
203.3.126.1 not listed in cbl.abuseat.org
203.3.126.1 not listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net
203.3.126.1 not listed in relays.ordb.org.

Reporting addresses:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


I did not see anything about you being blocked by anyone.

HTH

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Re: Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread robertmunn2
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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:29:57AM +1100, Bob Willson wrote:
 Hello
  
 I have been trying to ask questions of this forum for
 some time now but my questions seem to vanish into the
 wild blue ether.  :(

 It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
 this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and the
 one which I registered) is:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Use the web interface to the mailing lists to verify your
subscription, or if that fails then talk to postmaster.

Kris

 I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to see
  if this works.
 
 Bob Willson
 
 
   
  
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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Bob Willson

--- Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 9:29 AM +1100 1/15/06, Bob Willson wrote:
 Hello
 
 I have been trying to ask questions of this forum
 for
 some time now but my questions seem to vanish into
 the
 wild blue ether.  :(
 
 It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
 this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and
 the
 one which I registered) is:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to
 see
   if this works.
 
 If it helps, I did see this message of yours from
 the
 freebsd-questions mailing list.  I usually just skim
 through this mailing list though, so I have no idea
 if
 if your previous messages (from some other address?)
 also made it through.
 
 It is true that this list is busy enough that
 questions
 can get lost.  Which is to say, everyone *receives*
 the
 message, but no one actually replies to it simply
 because
 they're too busy with other things.
OK, thanks for the replies
I did get this through the Yahoo mail address on the
web interface.
I have checked all my settings on the
freebsd-questions web page as well and they are all
correct.
I get the two or three daily reports FROM the forum,
but I just don't seem able to post TO it. Any ideas
why not?
 -- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Senior Systems Programmer   or 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fwd: Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Bob Willson
--- Bob Willson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From Bob Willson Sun Jan 15 10:25:51 2006
 Received: from [203.3.126.224] by
 web80908.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan
 2006 10:25:51 EST
 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:25:51 +1100 (EST)
 From: Bob Willson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fwd: Re: Difficulty asking questions
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 Content-Length: 925
 
 Below is the complete header from an email that I
 sent
 to questions. It would appear that Robert Munn gets
 the questions and then forwards(or doesn't in my
 case)
 to the list
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 14 14:31:15
 2006   
 X-Apparently-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] via
 66.218.95.71; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:31:14 -0800  
 X-Originating-IP:  [128.8.10.60]   
 Return-Path:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Authentication-Results:mta308.mail.mud.yahoo.com
 from=comcast.net; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)  
 Received:  from 128.8.10.60 (EHLO listserv.umd.edu)
 (128.8.10.60) by mta308.mail.mud.yahoo.com with
 SMTP;
 Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:31:14 -0800
 Received:  (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by
 listserv.umd.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) id k0EMVF8o028545
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 14 Jan 2006
 17:31:15 -0500 (EST)   
 Date:  Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:31:15 -0500 (EST)   
 Message-Id:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Authentication-Warning:  listserv.umd.edu: sendmail
 set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f   
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 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Add to Address Book  
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
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 Subject:   Re: Difficulty asking questions 
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Re: Fwd: Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:31:00AM +1100, Bob Willson wrote:
 --- Bob Willson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From Bob Willson Sun Jan 15 10:25:51 2006
  Received: from [203.3.126.224] by
  web80908.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan
  2006 10:25:51 EST
  Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:25:51 +1100 (EST)
  From: Bob Willson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Fwd: Re: Difficulty asking questions
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  Content-Length: 925
  
  Below is the complete header from an email that I
  sent
  to questions. It would appear that Robert Munn gets
  the questions and then forwards(or doesn't in my
  case)
  to the list

No, he's just a lamer who can't configure his mail settings properly
:-(

Kris


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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread Micah

Bob Willson wrote:

--- Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 9:29 AM +1100 1/15/06, Bob Willson wrote:

Hello

I have been trying to ask questions of this forum

for

some time now but my questions seem to vanish into

the

wild blue ether.  :(

It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and

the

one which I registered) is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to

see

 if this works.

If it helps, I did see this message of yours from
the
freebsd-questions mailing list.  I usually just skim
through this mailing list though, so I have no idea
if
if your previous messages (from some other address?)
also made it through.

It is true that this list is busy enough that
questions
can get lost.  Which is to say, everyone *receives*
the
message, but no one actually replies to it simply
because
they're too busy with other things.

OK, thanks for the replies
I did get this through the Yahoo mail address on the
web interface.
I have checked all my settings on the
freebsd-questions web page as well and they are all
correct.
I get the two or three daily reports FROM the forum,
but I just don't seem able to post TO it. Any ideas
why not?

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn=  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Programmer   or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/ 
freebsd.org list.  I can't track down the emails right now, but I 
believe it was either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or freebsd-questions-owner@ 
who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues.  With his help I 
emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was 
surprised!)  So you should probably start by emailing one of the address 
I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: Difficulty asking questions

2006-01-14 Thread chris
Normally this happens when your mail server doesnt reversly resolve to the
domain name so if mail.i13i.com doesnt reverse to mail.i13i.com
freebsd.org's mailing lists will reject the mail. As this happened when i
was hosting my site using my DSL wasnt until i got a ded that i relaised
what it was.

 Bob Willson wrote:
 --- Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 9:29 AM +1100 1/15/06, Bob Willson wrote:
 Hello

 I have been trying to ask questions of this forum
 for
 some time now but my questions seem to vanish into
 the
 wild blue ether.  :(

 It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for
 this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and
 the
 one which I registered) is:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to
 see
  if this works.
 If it helps, I did see this message of yours from
 the
 freebsd-questions mailing list.  I usually just skim
 through this mailing list though, so I have no idea
 if
 if your previous messages (from some other address?)
 also made it through.

 It is true that this list is busy enough that
 questions
 can get lost.  Which is to say, everyone *receives*
 the
 message, but no one actually replies to it simply
 because
 they're too busy with other things.
 OK, thanks for the replies
 I did get this through the Yahoo mail address on the
 web interface.
 I have checked all my settings on the
 freebsd-questions web page as well and they are all
 correct.
 I get the two or three daily reports FROM the forum,
 but I just don't seem able to post TO it. Any ideas
 why not?
 --
 Garance Alistair Drosehn=
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Senior Systems Programmer   or
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/
 freebsd.org list.  I can't track down the emails right now, but I
 believe it was either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or freebsd-questions-owner@
 who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues.  With his help I
 emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was
 surprised!)  So you should probably start by emailing one of the address
 I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem.

 HTH,
 Micah
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