Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
Hi. Sorry for my english. I have a dual boot system, windows 7 64-bit (ada1) and FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 GEOM (ada0). I did it by installing FreeBSD boot0 on Windows HDD: boot0cfg -B ada1 then I choose Windows HDD as first boot drive in BIOS. Now at boot i have boot0 menu: F1 - Win F5 - Drive 1 F6 don't remember where Win is booting Windows 7, and F5 booting FreeBSD. My Windows HDD divided on to partitions, so i have to use 'boot0cfg -m some_mask' to delete second Windows partition from boot0 menu. Everything works fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On Wed, 23 May 2012, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:32:06PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2012 18:49:06 Jerry McAllister wrote: Hi, I have been searching through questions and forums for information on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it. My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be contradictory. I am not sure which to believe. My new machine has two disk drives. Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is. So, I don't even have to shrink a primary slice to do this. Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't you make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose which drive to boot from? That surely seems the hard way.Why interrupt the boot and go in to the BIOS every time when that is all provided for in the boot structure? It depends on the system, but many have a boot menu that is less intrusive than a multi-boot loader. F11 or F12 usually. Otherwise, EasyBCD works. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On 05/23/12 14:49, Jerry McAllister wrote: Hi, I have a dual boot system, windows 7 (ad0) and FreeBSD 9-stable (ad1). I moved back to BIOS boot after (I think) windows upgrade stabbed ad0. I found the system with a blank screen in the AM. Using BIOS boot, The first windows screen had an update message. Tom Dean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On Wednesday 23 May 2012 19:41:22 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't > > you make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose > > which drive to boot from? > > That surely seems the hard way.Why interrupt the boot and go > in to the BIOS every time when that is all provided for in the > boot structure? > > jerry Because if you want to switch systems you're gonna have to reboot anyway! The boot manager is nothing but an automatic interruption of the boot process to give you a chance to press a key for the system you want to boot from. But you're right. Pressing 3 keys instead of one or none IS the hard way. just my 0,02... -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On Wed, 23 May 2012, Jerry McAllister wrote: Hi, I have been searching through questions and forums for information on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it. My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be contradictory. I am not sure which to believe. My new machine has two disk drives. Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is. So, I don't even have to shrink a primary slice to do this. I have dual booted Xp, Windows 98 and 95 with various FreeBSDs before with no problem. But, the story I keep hearing now seems to be that Windows 7 is more picky and will not work with the FreeBSD MBR. I am not sure why. I have only done this with systems up to 8.1. With one disk you obviously have to shrink the partition. Depending on the size and how long windows 7 has been mucking with the disk there may be non-movable files.So you could need something a bit more sophicated the the native partition manager. Past that until 9.0, which works perfectly, installing an MBR removes the windows 7 MBR. From scratch using FreeBSD to make at least three partitions, installing FreeBSD in the third one and reinstalling from a restore set (which will most like use partitions 1 and 2) and then using a windows 7 compliant boot manager works. If you can shrink the windows partition to get enough space, make a windows restore set and then install FreeBSD and a boot manager. I have done this with 7.x, 8.0 and 8.1. I did a post I can probably find. At least some people seem to be claiming that I canNOT just do the install and put the FreeBSD MBR on the primary slices right from the sysnstall menu just like in the good old days - that the only way to make it work is to use something called 'Easybcd' to edit whatever Windows 7 puts in place rather than using the FreeBSD MBR and then use the MS MBR with whatever Easybcd does to it. Easybcd is what I used. Then again there were some posts that seemed to claim that using the FreeBSD MBR in the tried and true old way is just fine and everything just works. I'd like to think that is true. Me too, but until 9.0 that has not been my experience. I really don't want to have to scrounge up install media and remake the Windows 7 just because I do some wrong thing or I would just smoke test it. I am really phobic when it comes to MS stuff. If you can shrink the partition its fairly straight foward. The main trick is once you have shrunk the partion you must make a restore set because if you have to restore, the process rewrites everything, partition table and MBE as well as the windows partition. So if you do not and have to restore, your FreeBSD partition will disappear. I don't need any fancy boot menu. What I have had in the past is just fine. I just want to select either of the OSen and get some stuff done. I expect to be booted to FreeBSD most of the time, but need to use some W7 now and then for powder point, etc. If someone who understands the process underlying the boot system and knows if Windows 7 really does require something else now, who can speak with confidence can enlighten us, I would certainly appreciate it. Using FreeBSD 9.0 takes away the need for a third party boot manager but all the rest of the above applies, I am pretty sure. All my experience with windows 7 has been with AMD64, a Dell laptop, and a cute little HP thingy that I got for $300. If it is helpful I can probably dig up some details but the 8.x stuff I did was a year ago so the frog of war dims my recollection of details. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:32:06PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Wednesday 23 May 2012 18:49:06 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have been searching through questions and forums for information > > on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it. > > > > My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be > > contradictory. I am not sure which to believe. > > > > My new machine has two disk drives. Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want > > to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is. So, I don't even have > > to shrink a primary slice to do this. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > jerry > > ___ > > > Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't you > make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose which > drive to boot from? That surely seems the hard way.Why interrupt the boot and go in to the BIOS every time when that is all provided for in the boot structure? jerry > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
On Wednesday 23 May 2012 18:49:06 Jerry McAllister wrote: > Hi, > > I have been searching through questions and forums for information > on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it. > > My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be > contradictory. I am not sure which to believe. > > My new machine has two disk drives. Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want > to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is. So, I don't even have > to shrink a primary slice to do this. > > > Thank you, > > jerry > ___ Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't you make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose which drive to boot from? -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3
Hi, I have been searching through questions and forums for information on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it. My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be contradictory. I am not sure which to believe. My new machine has two disk drives. Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is. So, I don't even have to shrink a primary slice to do this. I have dual booted Xp, Windows 98 and 95 with various FreeBSDs before with no problem. But, the story I keep hearing now seems to be that Windows 7 is more picky and will not work with the FreeBSD MBR. I am not sure why. At least some people seem to be claiming that I canNOT just do the install and put the FreeBSD MBR on the primary slices right from the sysnstall menu just like in the good old days - that the only way to make it work is to use something called 'Easybcd' to edit whatever Windows 7 puts in place rather than using the FreeBSD MBR and then use the MS MBR with whatever Easybcd does to it. Then again there were some posts that seemed to claim that using the FreeBSD MBR in the tried and true old way is just fine and everything just works. I'd like to think that is true. I really don't want to have to scrounge up install media and remake the Windows 7 just because I do some wrong thing or I would just smoke test it. I am really phobic when it comes to MS stuff. I don't need any fancy boot menu. What I have had in the past is just fine. I just want to select either of the OSen and get some stuff done. I expect to be booted to FreeBSD most of the time, but need to use some W7 now and then for powder point, etc. If someone who understands the process underlying the boot system and knows if Windows 7 really does require something else now, who can speak with confidence can enlighten us, I would certainly appreciate it. Thank you, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"