On 08/07/2012 13:10, Warren Block wrote:
bsdinstall(8) has a curses partition editor. There is probably a
trick needed to use that outside of an install context.
Just run bsdinstall partedit.
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On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 23:27:23 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote:
You mean the non-subdivided 1.44 MB or other capacity of a floppy
is called a partition?
Let's try to use the correct terminology.
If you're talking about an MS-DOS disk, then yes, it contains
a DOS partition which is formatted. In
If you're talking about an MS-DOS disk, then yes, it contains
a DOS partition which is formatted. In FreeBSD, we would call
it a slice (slice == DOS primary partition). In this case,
there is no (sub)partitioning, the _slice_ carries the MS-DOS
unless you need windows 98 support partitionless
On 09/07/2012 11:16, Polytropon wrote:
If you're talking about an MS-DOS disk, then yes, it contains
a DOS partition which is formatted. In FreeBSD, we would call
it a slice (slice == DOS primary partition). In this case,
there is no (sub)partitioning, the _slice_ carries the MS-DOS
file system
Floppy disks aren't partitioned/sliced - they use 'dangerously dedicated'
they use dangerously obsolete mode. nobody use them at all.
disk's empty. If you're on an old system and run 'gpart show da0' and don't
see a partition table it's quite easy to forget to check if da0 itself
contains a
On 09/07/2012 13:17, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
they use dangerously obsolete mode. nobody use them at all.
A company I worked with were still distributing files on floppy disks as
recently as 2009. They _are_ obsolete, but I suspect plenty of people
still use them.
unless it is a normal way
A company I worked with were still distributing files on floppy disks as
recently as 2009.
quite funny :)
They _are_ obsolete, but I suspect plenty of people still
use them.
unless it is a normal way of using it.
That's right - I was thinking of my system where I destroyed all the data on
On 09/07/2012 13:29, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
only your fault, not FreeBSD. Why you connected your data disk at
first place.
I didn't say it was FreeBSD's fault. If I thought it was, I would have
fixed it!
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 21:00:40 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 08/07/2012 16:06, Ian Smith wrote:
In general they're not distinct in usage from any other type of disk.
The more expensive disks of course support TRIM so you'd want to pass -t to
newfs to enable it.
Thanks. Next time I blow
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 09/07/2012 11:16, Polytropon wrote:
If you're talking about an MS-DOS disk, then yes, it contains
a DOS partition which is formatted. In FreeBSD, we would call
it a slice (slice == DOS primary partition). In this case,
there is no (sub)partitioning, the
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 07:44:28AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
You don't. You wipe the FAT32 with fdisk and make a FreeBSD slice on it.
Then you can bsdlabel it with one partition and newfs it. Or you can
repeat 100 times more that you have to make fdisk and bsdlabel. you
don't, and it
Magdeburg, Germany
I have used gpart to partition a USB flash drive into FreeBSD boot partition,
root partition and swap partition.
making swap partition on USB pendrive is at least stupid. if you won't
swap at all - wasted space.
If you will it would be so slow and wear USB pendrive so
On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 17:45:17 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote:
Does a USB flash drive also work as a giant floppy, no partitions?
Can you make a flash drive bootable when nonpartitioned and
formatted that way?
Yes, that's exactly what my advice was aiming to, but let's
try to keep the terminology
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 09:49:30 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Magdeburg, Germany
I have used gpart to partition a USB flash drive into FreeBSD boot
partition, root partition and swap partition.
making swap partition on USB pendrive is at least stupid. if you won't
swap at all -
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:36:36 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block articulated:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I
want to erase the entire drive and format it for a
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:41:59 -0400, Carmel wrote:
Perhaps, and I know that this will offend some purists, but a nice GUI
that would do what your instructions detail above would be helpful.
There is no way that I am going to remember all of those instructions in
six months time. Just my 2¢.
Why
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote:
Yes, gpart will work with pretty much any storage device.
If you want the drive to be bootable, it needs boot blocks. This is
easier with GPT than MBR. For an 8G drive:
# gpart create -s gpt da0
# gpart add -t freebsd-boot -s 512k da0
# gpart bootcode -b
Interestingly enough, I searched through the man pages and FreeBSD help
but never came across anything that specifically addressed flash drive.
because there is no need to. For freebsd it is just a storage device.
for FreeBSD only i recommend using bsdlabel, not gpart, for multiOS using
with using the commands provided by Warren, you will be fine
every time. If you practice them regularly, you will remember
them, and if you do so, you'll surely write a script that
after doing
man gpart
he will understand it, so remembering is easy.
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 14:16:31 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Perhaps, and I know that this will offend some purists, but a nice GUI
not about purism but (lack of) usability.
GUI interfaces never helps, only hides real things and prevent
understanding anything. You maybe understand
On 08/07/2012 13:30, Polytropon wrote:
With few routine, tasks are performed more natural using
the desired CLI tools. You don't go Now I have to remember
which command to format the disk, you just format the disk,
which means spaking to newfs. The more often you do it,
the more obvious the
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:27:05 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 08/07/2012 13:30, Polytropon wrote:
With few routine, tasks are performed more natural using
the desired CLI tools. You don't go Now I have to remember
which command to format the disk, you just format the disk,
which means spaking
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:41:59 -0400 Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:36:36 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block articulated:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart
I know your question specified gpart, but the easiest way I know of to
put UFS filesystems on flash drives is to use sade(8), incorporating the
the easiest way to put UFS filesystem on flash drives is to ... put
UFS filesystem using newfs command.
You DO NOT NEED any partitioning.
On 08/07/2012 16:06, Ian Smith wrote:
In general they're not distinct in usage from any other type of disk.
The more expensive disks of course support TRIM so you'd want to pass -t
to newfs to enable it.
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In general they're not distinct in usage from any other type of disk.
The more expensive disks of course support TRIM so you'd want to pass -t to
newfs to enable it.
can you give me an example of pendrive that supports TRIM?
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On 08/07/2012 21:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
can you give me an example of pendrive that supports TRIM?
LaCie FastKey
(http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-flash-drive,review-32174-5.html).
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seems like SSD style controller+USB 3.0 bridge. sizes suggest this.
thanks.
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 08/07/2012 21:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
can you give me an example of pendrive that supports TRIM?
LaCie FastKey
On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 17:45:17 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote:
Does a USB flash drive also work as a giant floppy, no partitions?
Can you make a flash drive bootable when nonpartitioned and
formatted that way?
Polytropon responded:
Yes, that's exactly what my advice was aiming to, but let's
try
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 02:27:05PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 08/07/2012 13:30, Polytropon wrote:
With few routine, tasks are performed more natural using
the desired CLI tools. You don't go Now I have to remember
which command to format the disk, you just format the disk,
which means
You don't. You wipe the FAT32 with fdisk and make a FreeBSD slice on it.
Then you can bsdlabel it with one partition and newfs it. Or you can
repeat 100 times more that you have to make fdisk and bsdlabel. you
don't, and it doesn't make sense
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file system (as you said without partitions, and I'll take
that literally): You can use tar, the universal file system
that isn't a file system to write data to the USB stick.
which is best in USB pendrive wear and speed point of view.
pendrive's flash translation layers are just awful, only
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:15:10 -0400, Carmel wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.
In that case, screw slices and
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:15:10 -0400, Carmel wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.
In that case, screw slices and
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.
Yes, gpart will work with pretty much any storage
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