Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-09-22 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Okay.  Maybe we'll see a convergence of the two in the medium/long term.  Right now, interested parties need to look at the available hardware, and then talk to the vendors about whether they would be willing to support a

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 18.08.2010 18:20, C. Bergström wrote: Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps in the right direction. First, and this hasn't

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread C. Bergström
Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: On 18.08.2010 18:20, C. Bergström wrote: Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 21.08.2010 11:01, C. Bergström wrote: *snip* (Hope I don't come across negative... I'm just trying to give real feedback based on our experience) No coming-across-as-negative interpreted. ;) As I said, my two 5970s sit in a windows box... //Svein --

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread Eduardo
Sorry for the dalay: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:26:16 +0700 C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: No, PathScale has a full NVIDIA replacement. From front-end programming model to kernel driver. (I'm happy to give more information, but don't want to spam the list) Oks, FreeBSD has

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread b. f.
... MPI is typically dependent on the network not OpenMP. OpenMP 3.0 can be made more scalable if there's tasks built-into the kernel that can be cleanly exposed to userland. (Like OpenSolaris + libtask from Moinak is a good example) If you have a specific set of modifications in mind,

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread Eduardo
Hi b. f. On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:24:16 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: ... MPI is typically dependent on the network not OpenMP. OpenMP 3.0 can be made more scalable if there's tasks built-into the kernel http://www.bsdcan.org/2010/schedule/events/169.en.html , and

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread b. f.
On 8/20/10, Eduardo emor...@xroff.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:24:16 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Reading documentation, thanks b. f. I'm already on freebsd-hackers list. Is that the correct list for this topic? If you have a specific technical question about FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread Ivan Klymenko
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Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread C. Bergström
Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps in the right direction. First, and this hasn't changed since the last 15 years, FreeBSD lack in

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread emorras
Hi Christopher, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com escribió: PathScale and CAPS recently announced HMPP as a new manycore GPGPU open standard and there's a chance you'll see it ported to FBSD. In addition to this you could see other open standards working well on FBSD, but that

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread C. Bergström
emor...@xroff.net wrote: Hi Christopher, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com escribió: PathScale and CAPS recently announced HMPP as a new manycore GPGPU open standard and there's a chance you'll see it ported to FBSD. In addition to this you could see other open standards working well on

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-17 Thread emorras
Pieter de Goeje pie...@degoeje.nl escribió: The amd64 driver was an illustration of something where raising awareness or whatever you might call it actually helped IMHO. Unfortunately this is a chicken-and-egg problem. No HPC users means no demand means no incentive to do something about it

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-17 Thread Ivan Klymenko
There are some other problems (please note that i don't follow the -current nor -kernel lists) a) Who knows how to implement Kernel Mode Settings for this? b) Are KMS drivers desirable in FreeBSD? c) Is it in the roadmap for FreeBSD9 or 8.x? d) Anyone wants to do the work? probably the

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:53:10AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: First, and this hasn't changed since the last 15 years, FreeBSD lack in support of professional Compiler vendors. I feel your pain. I'd say that at present FBSD cannot be used as HPC platform. Even if some things are possible to

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de пишет: I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the necessary extensions for clang/llvm ... http://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#vectors and a few links on the topic ...

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread emorras
Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net escribió: В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de пишет: I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the necessary extensions for clang/llvm ... http://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#vectors Yes,

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 15:47:13 emor...@xroff.net wrote: Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net escribió: В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de пишет: I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the necessary extensions for clang/llvm ...

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Klymenko
I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA supported. http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152742

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA supported. how is this different from

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and that they very much would

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 08/16/10 16:50, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 08/16/10 21:13, Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 23:00:52 Hartmann, O. wrote: On 08/16/10 21:13, Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this.

FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-14 Thread O. Hartmann
Hello. The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. I use FreeBSD at my lab and private for scientific stuff. In most cases, FreeBSD performed sufficiently for tasks we/I had to do. But this picture has changed. Modelling atsrodynamical problems