Re: FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE on the intel 875 or 865-series chipsets
Dan: Thank you very much for your response! I of course checked hardware.txt before posting, but didn't see a single mention on either the 5.x or 4.x release sections, but figured it was just an oversight as you pointed out - the 875 865 seemed to be far too be far too popular a chipset to be fully ignored by FreeBSD, but I of course couldn't say for sure... and I had lots of trouble finding any mention of i865 and i875 on ANY FreeBSD mailing list. Also, thanks for the terminology correction :) Legacy mode sounds a bit better than some sort of compatibility mode :) Anyway, I'll be installing FreeBSD 4.9 on my new systems... I use 4.8 currently, but from my FreeBSD experience, when FreeBSD doesn't natively support something, there are USUALLY problems in the compatibility or legacy mode. Might as well start with the latest and move to a dev 5.x if that doesn't work. I'll follow up to the list if I can get it to work. Thanks again! Brian Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] The some sort of compatibility mode is called legacy mode. You set it in the main BIOS. In this mode, the 875/865 series chipsets (actually the ICH5 chip) make the SATA disks appear to be on one of the channels of the traditional motherboard ATA controller and they probably work fine in this mode with almost any OS that understands traditional motherboard ATA. There may be some confusion over the ATA cable type, but as long as the driver configures the drives for some sort of DMA, they will do SATA150. The Intel 875/865 (ICH5) SATA controller works in native (non-legacy) mode beginning with FreeBSD 4.9 and 5.x. The 4.9 driver does not understand much about SATA but it seems to work quite well enough. This controller also seemed to work correctly in native mode under 5.1. The 5.x driver is in flux at the moment. It seems to have lots of difficulty with this particular SATA controller. I don't know how seriously the bugs are viewed by the FreeBSD release engineering team (or if the bugs will be fixed in 5.2). Note that the HARDWARE.TXT files in FreeBSD releases still do not claim any particular support for Intel 875/865 (ICH5) ATA controllers. I don't know if this is policy or an oversight. Dan Strick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE on the intel 875 or 865-series chipsets
Hi, I posted a question about FreeBSD on Shuttle hardware yesterday, but figured my subject line might've been too vague for people to recognize. Anyway, I am wondering if FreeBSD 4.x will work with drives hooked into either of those chipsets' onboard SATA. Specifically, the harddrives are western digital 10,000rpm serial ata drives, and I wonder if FreeBSD can handle booting off of them. I imagine that FreeBSD doesn't support serial ata natively, but I'd think there would be some sort of compatibility mode. Has anyone had success with this using the intel 875 and 865 series chipsets? Are there any other issues with that chipset and FreeBSD 4.x that I should be aware of? Note: I'm only interested in booting the system - if that means the drives have to run in polling mode, or ATA-33 or without ultra-DMA, so be it - I just want to know if that config CAN work. I read on the linux mailing lists that this exact config DOES work on linux 2.4 kernels, in some sort of compatibility mode. Will this be usable on FreeBSD as well? Thank you, bc ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE on the intel 875 or 865-series chipsets
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Brian Costello wrote: I posted a question about FreeBSD on Shuttle hardware yesterday, but figured my subject line might've been too vague for people to recognize. Anyway, I am wondering if FreeBSD 4.x will work with drives hooked into either of those chipsets' onboard SATA. Specifically, the harddrives are western digital 10,000rpm serial ata drives, and I wonder if FreeBSD can handle booting off of them. I imagine that FreeBSD doesn't support serial ata natively, but I'd think there would be some sort of compatibility mode. Has anyone had success with this using the intel 875 and 865 series chipsets? Are there any other issues with that chipset and FreeBSD 4.x that I should be aware of? Note: I'm only interested in booting the system - if that means the drives have to run in polling mode, or ATA-33 or without ultra-DMA, so be it - I just want to know if that config CAN work. I read on the linux mailing lists that this exact config DOES work on linux 2.4 kernels, in some sort of compatibility mode. Will this be usable on FreeBSD as well? The some sort of compatibility mode is called legacy mode. You set it in the main BIOS. In this mode, the 875/865 series chipsets (actually the ICH5 chip) make the SATA disks appear to be on one of the channels of the traditional motherboard ATA controller and they probably work fine in this mode with almost any OS that understands traditional motherboard ATA. There may be some confusion over the ATA cable type, but as long as the driver configures the drives for some sort of DMA, they will do SATA150. The Intel 875/865 (ICH5) SATA controller works in native (non-legacy) mode beginning with FreeBSD 4.9 and 5.x. The 4.9 driver does not understand much about SATA but it seems to work quite well enough. This controller also seemed to work correctly in native mode under 5.1. The 5.x driver is in flux at the moment. It seems to have lots of difficulty with this particular SATA controller. I don't know how seriously the bugs are viewed by the FreeBSD release engineering team (or if the bugs will be fixed in 5.2). Note that the HARDWARE.TXT files in FreeBSD releases still do not claim any particular support for Intel 875/865 (ICH5) ATA controllers. I don't know if this is policy or an oversight. Dan Strick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE on the intel 875 or 865-series chipsets
The author of the following email apparently had difficulty sending this to freebsd-questions, so I am forwarding it to the mailing list without comment. DRS From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 12 14:11:27 2003 From: McMahon, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ... Subject: FreeBSD 4.8 will not boot on 865 motherboard in any mode! Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:42 -0700 Hello... I'm afraid my mail to the BSD board bounces-feel free to re-send this... I have just discovered that FreeBSD 4.8 does not boot 865 motherboards in either Enhanced or Legacy mode. But I know from experience that FreeBSD 4.9 and 5.1 both handle the 865 though, in either mode-the problem is in the ata driver, and has been cropping up for some time, although I haven't found a root cause. As a workaround, I'm using a 4.9 kernel in a 4.8 installation. It's ugly, but it'll get me through the night... -Chris ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
