FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread FreeBSD MailingLists
I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?

I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
performance.

Thank you,
Tomoki Taniguchi
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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 01:02:42AM +0800, FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
 I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
 It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
 I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
 Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?
 
 I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
 that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
 performance.
 
 Thank you,
 Tomoki Taniguchi

I would guess that performance differences between NetBSD, FreeBSD, or
most any OS for that matter will be neglibile for the purposes of a
simple web terminal.  Use whatever you are most comfortable with.
Someone will surely disagree with me.

Nathan


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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread Tomas Quintero
On 5/16/05, FreeBSD MailingLists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
 It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
 I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
 Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?
 
 I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
 that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
 performance.
 
 Thank you,
 Tomoki Taniguchi

Hell, put Windows NT4 on it. It's all the same. If you're not doing
anything special on it, it doesn't really matter imo.


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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread RW
On Monday 16 May 2005 18:02, FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
 I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
 It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
 I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
 Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?


NetBSD prioritises portability over performance, FreeBSD generally has better 
application and hardware support on a smaller set of platforms, so FreeBSD is 
the obvious choice.
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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread Joel
On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:03:18 -0400
Tomas Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 On 5/16/05, FreeBSD MailingLists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
  It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
  I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
  Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?
  
  I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
  that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
  performance.
  
  Thank you,
  Tomoki Taniguchi
 
 Hell, put Windows NT4 on it. It's all the same. If you're not doing
 anything special on it, it doesn't really matter imo.

Say what?

NT4 for browsing the web? With known vulnerabilities and no maintenance?

Be civil.

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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread wmc2004aug
At 09:36 PM 5/16/2005, you wrote:
... It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD ...
... Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?
I have a system with nearly identical specs that runs DNS and some other 
minor services on our external network.  While I can't comment on NetBSD, I 
would suggest that with FreeBSD in that little memory, you should take the 
time to configure and compile a stripped-down kernel.  It saves 5 or 6 MB 
of ram on mine (ie:  a good chuck of 64MB!)

  -Wayne
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Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)

2005-05-16 Thread Joel
On Tue, 17 May 2005 01:02:42 +0800
FreeBSD MailingLists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
 It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
 I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
 Which would perform better on such a system?  FreeBSD or NetBSD?
 
 I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
 that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
 performance.

Performance? Which OS may be the wrong question.

If you want it to browse the web, add RAM. If possible, add 512MB.

I'd ask how much experience you have with the command line. netBSD (and
openBSD) will require much more work on the command line than freeBSD.

I'd also ask whether you need multibyte text. If so, freeBSD's support
of locales is better than netBSD's or openBSD's.

I understand that it is possible to get a window manager working with
only 64 MB of RAM, but you would want to use one of the bare bones, dead
simple ones, _not_ Gnome or KDE. Even if you can raise the RAM to 512 MB,
you'll still probably prefer to use a simpler window manager.

If you really know what you are doing, you can get better performance on
small systems with netBSD. But if you knew that much, you wouldn't be
asking.

Pick one, go for it, expect to learn a lot. As much as possible, avoid
compiling on a box that slow. Use binary packages when you can.

Expect compiles to take days, not hours. With only 64MB, don't be
surprised if a moderately large source package takes more than a week to
compile.

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