FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

2002-09-24 Thread MET

I've been doing a LOT of reading, and I can't seem to find anything
resembling a clear answer.  The one truth I've found is this, there are
more 'stupid' Linux users than there are FreeBSD users.  So I figured
I'd ask this to a FreeBSD mailing list, as opposed to a Linux one.


1) What is the BIG difference between FreeBSD and Linux?  Is it truly a
'big' difference, or do people just exaggerate the truth?

2) Since FreeBSD offers its 'Linux Compatibility' - will that allow me
to use programs that were written on and for a Red Hat version of Linux?



FreeBSD is what I know and love, but now I'm starting to use it as a
desktop (KDE 3 / XFree86 4.2) and I just want to make sure that I'm not
missing out on people's applications (home based) that seem to only be
written for Linux.


~ Matthew


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Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

2002-09-24 Thread Erik Trulsson

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:24:48PM -0400, MET wrote:
 I've been doing a LOT of reading, and I can't seem to find anything
 resembling a clear answer.  The one truth I've found is this, there are
 more 'stupid' Linux users than there are FreeBSD users.  So I figured

That is just because there are more Linux users than FreeBSD users
overall.

 I'd ask this to a FreeBSD mailing list, as opposed to a Linux one.
 
 
 1) What is the BIG difference between FreeBSD and Linux?  Is it truly a
 'big' difference, or do people just exaggerate the truth?

It depends on what level you look at.  The internals of the kernel is
quite different between Linux and FreeBSD for example, and the
development model has some significant differences, but from the
viewpoint of a normal user there isn't much of a difference.  Some
details differ but most things are the same, or at least very similar.

This is true (to varying degrees) of all Unix variants.  From a users
point of view most things are quite similar between them, but some
details are different.

 
 2) Since FreeBSD offers its 'Linux Compatibility' - will that allow me
 to use programs that were written on and for a Red Hat version of Linux?

With the exceptions of device drivers and things like that, yes.

 
 FreeBSD is what I know and love, but now I'm starting to use it as a
 desktop (KDE 3 / XFree86 4.2) and I just want to make sure that I'm not
 missing out on people's applications (home based) that seem to only be
 written for Linux.

Most Linux applications should run fine on FreeBSD.  Some exceptions
undoubtedly exist but those are indeed exceptions rather than the rule.


-- 
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Erik Trulsson
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Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

2002-09-24 Thread Mark Haney


1) What is the BIG difference between FreeBSD and Linux?  Is it truly a
'big' difference, or do people just exaggerate the truth?

2) Since FreeBSD offers its 'Linux Compatibility' - will that allow me
to use programs that were written on and for a Red Hat version of Linux?

Matthew, 

I found the following website helpful when I was investigating similar questions...


http://www.cons.org/cracauer/freebsd.html

HTH,
Mark

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Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

2002-09-24 Thread Jud



-Original Message-
From: Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:37:50 +0200
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:24:48PM -0400, MET wrote:
[snip]
 
 2) Since FreeBSD offers its 'Linux Compatibility' - will that allow me
 to use programs that were written on and for a Red Hat version of Linux?

With the exceptions of device drivers and things like that, yes.

 
 FreeBSD is what I know and love, but now I'm starting to use it as a
 desktop (KDE 3 / XFree86 4.2) and I just want to make sure that I'm not
 missing out on people's applications (home based) that seem to only be
 written for Linux.

Most Linux applications should run fine on FreeBSD.  Some exceptions
undoubtedly exist but those are indeed exceptions rather than the rule.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Just a quick caveat to the generally true statement 
that Erik makes - (1) If an app hasn't been ported,
that may mean there are difficulties getting it to
run under FreeBSD.  For instance, I'd love to try
Valgrind, Kylix and VMWare 3, but I'm guessing their
absence from ports means no one's been able to get
them working right on FreeBSD yet.  (2) I generally
find it's best to use the port where one exists - the
port has been done by someone who knows a lot more
than I do about FreeBSD and the ported app.

OTOH, once in a while there's a nice app that no one's
gotten around to porting yet - e.g., the Psi Jabber
client, before Jonathan Chen was nice enough to do the
honors.  Or a port will be packaged as part of the
GNOME or KDE environments, and I'd prefer to use it
without all the baggage; this was true of the
Rox-filer file manager, but (happily) no longer.

Jud


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Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

2002-09-24 Thread Weston M. Price

Hello,
One of the major caveats to the FreeBSD--Linux compatibility is Java 
applications. This may just be in my case, but I am having absolutely no luck 
getting a lot of Java based applications to work on FreeBSD that work just 
fine on Solaris and Linux. Also, multimedia stuff is also problematic. 

So, if you are a serious Java developer and like using an IDE other than Emacs 
I would seriously consider before moving to FreeBSD on the desktop.

Regards,

Weston

On Tuesday 24 September 2002 07:03 pm, Jud wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:37:50 +0200
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux || Possibly wrong list

 On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:24:48PM -0400, MET wrote:
 [snip]

  2) Since FreeBSD offers its 'Linux Compatibility' - will that allow me
  to use programs that were written on and for a Red Hat version of Linux?

 With the exceptions of device drivers and things like that, yes.

  FreeBSD is what I know and love, but now I'm starting to use it as a
  desktop (KDE 3 / XFree86 4.2) and I just want to make sure that I'm not
  missing out on people's applications (home based) that seem to only be
  written for Linux.

 Most Linux applications should run fine on FreeBSD.  Some exceptions
 undoubtedly exist but those are indeed exceptions rather than the rule.

 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

 Just a quick caveat to the generally true statement
 that Erik makes - (1) If an app hasn't been ported,
 that may mean there are difficulties getting it to
 run under FreeBSD.  For instance, I'd love to try
 Valgrind, Kylix and VMWare 3, but I'm guessing their
 absence from ports means no one's been able to get
 them working right on FreeBSD yet.  (2) I generally
 find it's best to use the port where one exists - the
 port has been done by someone who knows a lot more
 than I do about FreeBSD and the ported app.

 OTOH, once in a while there's a nice app that no one's
 gotten around to porting yet - e.g., the Psi Jabber
 client, before Jonathan Chen was nice enough to do the
 honors.  Or a port will be packaged as part of the
 GNOME or KDE environments, and I'd prefer to use it
 without all the baggage; this was true of the
 Rox-filer file manager, but (happily) no longer.

 Jud


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