Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:10:02AM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused disc space? I am a satisfied customer of Eraser for Windows. I'm looking for the same thing for FreeBSD. Have you looked into the `shred` utility (gshred on

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-18 Thread RW
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:59:44 -0800 Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gutmann method might be excessive but any software that uses it shows a seriousness about security. Gutmann himself regards the continued use of his method as Voodoo Gutmann's paper was about wiping the kind of disks

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:59:44 -0800 Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gutmann method might be excessive but any software that uses it shows a seriousness about security. Gutmann himself regards the continued use of his method as Voodoo

Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Jason C. Wells
Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused disc space? I am a satisfied customer of Eraser for Windows. I'm looking for the same thing for FreeBSD. Thanks, Jason C. Wells ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there, Check out /usr/ports/security/wipe/ - It should meet your requirements. Cheers, Marc On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:10:02AM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused disc space? I am a satisfied customer of Eraser for Windows.

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Peter Boosten
Marc Silver wrote: Hi there, Check out /usr/ports/security/wipe/ - It should meet your requirements. Or always 'rm -P' :-) Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there, On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:22:33AM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: Or always 'rm -P' :-) Nice... never knew about this. That said, this won't satisfy the Gutmann requirement as far as I understand it and overwriting a file three times is not considered a true secure wipe of data. This

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
man dd On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused disc space? I am a satisfied customer of Eraser for Windows. I'm looking for the same thing for FreeBSD. Thanks, Jason C. Wells

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there, On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:43:46AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: how? even single write is enough Not according to the paper that Gutmann wrote: http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec96/full_papers/gutmann/ In short, he says that if you know how the data

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
That said, this won't satisfy the Gutmann requirement as far as I understand it and overwriting a file three times is not considered a true secure wipe of data. This data would still be theoretically recoverable. how? even single write is enough ___

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Jason C. Wells
Marc Silver wrote: Obviously it all comes down to how important the data is that you're removing, but a single write is not enough if the data needs to be disposed of 'securely'. Yep. The magnetic media retains a trace of everything that was recorded on it. If you have recorded over an old

RE: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Brent Jones
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason C. Wells Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 9:10 p.m. To: freebsd general questions Subject: Gutman Method on Empty Space Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused

Re: Gutman Method on Empty Space

2008-01-17 Thread Nerius Landys
Can anyone recommend a utility for the secure overwriting of unused disc space? split -b 200m /dev/random randomdata ; sync rm randomdata* Run as many times as your paranoia factor requires on your file system. Gutman suggests in his own writings that overwriting with random data