Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
Hello, i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). My current system is alive since 2005, so is full of code, scripts, configurations,lookfeel,ssh keys etc.. that i would like to keep handy in my new system. Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in case it affects something. Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i haven't done any upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that confident in this regard. I could: a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and then a1) just mount the old disks to the new system or a2) migrate /home user data directly to the new home dirs b) migrate all current data to the new hardware, kernel/system included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or makeworld/makekernel) So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness, effectiveness, and ease of use. What would you guys recommend? Which way to go? Any other options? Thanx in advance! Please include me in your CC, as i am not subscribed to the list. Achilleas Mantzios ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
Achilleas Mantzios schrieb: Hi! Hello, i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). Well, you know that i386 is Intel, do you? It might work just moving the old kernel to a 64-bit system but I have no experience with it. My current system is alive since 2005, so is full of code, scripts, configurations,lookfeel,ssh keys etc.. that i would like to keep handy in my new system. Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in case it affects something. Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i haven't done any upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that confident in this regard. I could: a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and then a1) just mount the old disks to the new system or a2) migrate /home user data directly to the new home dirs b) migrate all current data to the new hardware, kernel/system included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or makeworld/makekernel) Item b) is not recommended. There are so many changes AFAIK that it is no clear update. You might do so but then you should update the following way from 6.3 - 7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 8.0 as was recommended on this list earlier (search the archives, please, for further details if you choose this way). For me, a clean install of 8.0 and a move from the old data to the fresh install is better. Use a2) ! Greetings Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Achilleas Mantzios mantzios.ach...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). My current system is alive since 2005, so is full of code, scripts, configurations,lookfeel,ssh keys etc.. that i would like to keep handy in my new system. Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in case it affects something. Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i haven't done any upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that confident in this regard. I could: a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and then a1) just mount the old disks to the new system or a2) migrate /home user data directly to the new home dirs b) migrate all current data to the new hardware, kernel/system included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or makeworld/makekernel) So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness, effectiveness, and ease of use. What would you guys recommend? Which way to go? Any other options? Thanx in advance! Please include me in your CC, as i am not subscribed to the list. Achilleas Mantzios You may want to consider installing from scratch and migrating over. This would allow you setup zfs and make the move easier. Also may want to explore run ahci(4) as that can seriously increase disk speed although I believe many more improvements live in STABLE, not RELEASE. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
Frank Wissmann writes: i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). b) migrate all current data to the new hardware, kernel/system included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or makeworld/makekernel) Item b) is not recommended. Confirmed. _Highly_ not recommended. .0 releases usually contain ABI/API changes (among other things) and you don't want anything getting confused. For me, a clean install of 8.0 and a move from the old data to the fresh install is better. To the OP: the machine I'm typing on is also AMD Phenom II x4 (940, if it matters) originally installed with 8.0-RC3/amd64. Once I got past the dangerously dedicated disk issue (and close relatives) everything went smoothly. Of the choices presented, I recommend (a1) with the old disk set to read-only in hardware. New disks are cheap, and this gives you a perfect backup for as long as you want it. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
Thanx to all. I will keep the old machine for development/maintenance/support, while bulding/testing/migrating the newest versions of software in the new hardware. Up to now, i got the base system/kernel working ok on the new beast, and currently installing additional distributions. All seem fine. Achilleas Mantzios --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice To: Achilleas Mantzios mantzios.ach...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:36 PM On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Achilleas Mantzios mantzios.ach...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). My current system is alive since 2005, so is full of code, scripts, configurations,lookfeel,ssh keys etc.. that i would like to keep handy in my new system. Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in case it affects something. Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i haven't done any upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that confident in this regard. I could: a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and then a1) just mount the old disks to the new system or a2) migrate /home user data directly to the new home dirs b) migrate all current data to the new hardware, kernel/system included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or makeworld/makekernel) So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness, effectiveness, and ease of use. What would you guys recommend? Which way to go? Any other options? Thanx in advance! Please include me in your CC, as i am not subscribed to the list. Achilleas Mantzios You may want to consider installing from scratch and migrating over. This would allow you setup zfs and make the move easier. Also may want to explore run ahci(4) as that can seriously increase disk speed although I believe many more improvements live in STABLE, not RELEASE. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0 advice
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:07:41 +0100 Frank Wissmann frank.wissman...@web.de wrote: Achilleas Mantzios schrieb: Hi! Hello, i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my 6.3 i386 system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware based on amd64 (phenom II x4). Well, you know that i386 is Intel, do you? No i386 is 32-bit, amd64 is 64-bit, Intel and AMD make both. All amd64 compatible processors are i386 compatible too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
