headless install frozen.

2004-09-08 Thread oscar wicks
hello:
using  a 4.10 release on my main machine, i was trying to make a FBSD  
headless install on a toshiba  T4600c, because it has  a minimalistic HD 
(200mb) and there is not any CDROM drive, just floppy drive,  20Mb ram, no 
LAN, no modem.

if i try  regular kern.flp and mfsroot.flp (no serial booting -h), toshiba  
loads fine sysinstall but without CDROM i can`t do  any more, unless serial 
communication.

and i can`t use keybord to send enter key pressed  to my laptop.
this  is  what im doing:
1.-made Boot Floppies using, to Boot into a Serial Console (both floppies 
made with dd command)
using this on kern.flp:

# echo /boot/loader -h  boot.config
2.-Connect Null Modem Cable between  first serial ports on both machines.
You now need to connect a null modem cable Just connect the cable to the 
serial ports of the 2 machines. A normal serial cable will not work here, 
you need a null modem cable because it has some of the wires inside crossed 
over.

3.-Booting Up for the Install,
kern.flp floppy in the floppy drive of the machine  im doing the headless 
install on, and power on the machine.

4.-Connecting to my Headless Machine, using this command on my FBSD machine:
# cu -l /dev/cuaa0
That's it! i can see booting kern.flp on monitorYou  through my cu session. 
It ask me to put in the mfsroot.flp, and then...
...HERE IS  THE PROBLEM...
It supose to be like this:

 it will come up with a selection of what kind of terminal to use. Select 
the FreeBSD color console and proceed with your install!
  ...BUT...

-even not can press enter key for start reading second flppy (mfsroot.flp).
-keyboard not works as  expects, (not take  care of regular typing or arrow 
keys, space bar, etc.)
-cu session continues as  usual no takes  care about booting  process.
- and  of course there isn`t any selection of any kind of terminal to use.

i know almost nothing about cu program, but  FreeBSD Handbook (2.12 Advanced 
Installation Guide)
explain very well howto.
What am  missing?
or,  what is maybe misconfigured on my cu program machine?

any clues, you guys?
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thnks for  your  help,
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Re: Headless Install

2004-08-06 Thread Lee Harr
On 2004-08-03, Maksym Marchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And what you can do with headless PC? Can you control this PC only in
 command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?



Sure. You would use the headless machine to run X clients.

I have a headless PC that serves X sessions for a dozen thin
terminals. The server actually has video if I need to access
the console (I do not have a serial console set up) but I almost
never have a monitor or keyboard attached to the system.


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Re: Headless Install

2004-08-03 Thread Maksym Marchenko

I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
do anything.
What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
Maksym, you need to start a getty process on the serial line,
by editing /etc/ttys like this:
console noneunknown off secure
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyd0   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  on secure
ttyd1   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyd2   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyd3   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
In /stand/sysinstall (or /usr/sbin/sysinstall), you can edit
ttys.
I'm running 5.2-CURRENT on net4801 Soekris hardware, and this
is exaclty what is needed to get login prompt on the serial
console.

Thanks! It works pre[tty] good! :-)
I have two more questions :
Sometimes I see warning:
terminal is not fully functional.
So I can't edit kernel file mit ee - the text is shown shifted in their 
lines.
Must I use another terminal program to help this?

And what you can do with headless PC? Can you control this PC only in
command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Headless Install

2004-08-03 Thread cpghost
Maksym Marchenko wrote:
Sometimes I see warning:
terminal is not fully functional.
So I can't edit kernel file mit ee - the text is shown shifted in 
their lines.
Must I use another terminal program to help this?
You just need to set TERM to something sensible, say,
'cons25' or 'xterm'.
If you ssh to the box from a FreeBSD console,
TERM should already be set to 'cons25'. If you ssh from
an xterm, TERM will (or should) already be 'xterm'.
If you use some other terminal emulator (e.g. from
Windows or so), try setting both your emulator and
TERM to 'vt100'.
And what you can do with headless PC? Can you control this PC only in
command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?
What do you want to do with it?
If you want to do maintenance work (configure servers like, say, postfix,
cyrus/imap, thttpd, set up ppp[oe], natd, ...), just ssh to the box like
you would to any other server too. In normal day to day operations, just
access the misc. servers from outside your headless PC with your favorite
clients. Very simple.
Something like X would be absolute overkill. You want X on your regular
workstation; not on the headless server! But if you absolutely must,
just install the X clients, X libraries etc... on the headless machine
via ports as usual. You definitely don't need an X server on a headless
machine though ;)
Oh, and btw, you can tweak your kernel config file: just remove everything
that you don't need, like vga, sc, keyboard, ... If you don't have the
hardware for it on board, why bother having a driver for it in the kernel?
Enjoy!
cpghost.
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Headless Install

2004-08-02 Thread Maksym Marchenko
Hi!
I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
do anything.
What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
Another terminal may be?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Headless Install

2004-08-02 Thread cpghost
Maksym Marchenko wrote:
Hi!
I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
do anything.
What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
Maksym, you need to start a getty process on the serial line,
by editing /etc/ttys like this:
console noneunknown off secure
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyv7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  off  secure
ttyd0   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  on secure
ttyd1   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyd2   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyd3   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
In /stand/sysinstall (or /usr/sbin/sysinstall), you can edit
ttys.
I'm running 5.2-CURRENT on net4801 Soekris hardware, and this
is exaclty what is needed to get login prompt on the serial
console.
Good luck!
cpghost.
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Headless install problem

2003-12-30 Thread Daniela
Hi, I'm doing a headless install for the first time (4.9-R) but it won't work.
I followed the procedure in the handbook carefully. When I enter
`cu -l /dev/cuaa0` it just tells me I'm connected, but the handbook says it 
should prompt me for the second floppy.

I tried cu -d:

cu: fconn_open: Opening port /dev/cuaa0 (default speed)
cu: fsserial_open: Baud rate is 9600
cu: fconn_set: Changing setting to 0, 0, 2
Connected.

I checked the floppies, there's nothing wrong with them, but it looks like the 
computer fails to boot the kernel. The boot order is set correctly. It did 
boot a DOS floppy before.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,
Daniela


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Headless Install

2003-02-25 Thread Mike
Trying to load 5.0 via headless install onto an IBM ThinkPad 765D (D for
damm) Using these instructions.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanc
ed.html
Pretty simple always nice

But after booting the IBM get to 
/boot.config /boot/loader -h
BTX Loader 1.0 BTX Version is 1.01

And stays there - Forever

The mothership I use the following command 

# cu -l /dev/cuaa0  as root

And it say's connected but I cannot do a CTRL C after it does nothing
for 30 minutes or so and I want to end it. I end up rebooting to stop
it.

Using real null modem cablesG And I have redid 4 floppies, making sure
my media is good, tested another pair of cables to make sure nothing
changes and of course nothing does.

So I am fully aware of the 5.0 pitfalls and I am only trying to load and
test it on the laptop but if anyone has some helpful hints other than
cables, disks mojog I would very much appreciate it.

Back to the lab

M;)



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