Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-23 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/12/21 Yuri :
> ill...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Umm . . . yes?  But more seriously, FreeBSD is still
>> very much a server operating system, expecting it to
>> be exactly like Torvalds 2.6 OS or BiGa 0.7alpha right
>> now is a bit much.
>>
>
> Really? I was using FreeBSD as a desktop system for at least 10 years and it
> works quite well as a desktop. There are few defects, like the lack of
> network manager.
> If it was very much a server operating system, what are kde and gnome teams
> doing in your opinion? They seem to be completely unaware of that either.
>

Nonexclusive properties.  Statements tending to create a
false dichotomy.  Nevermind.

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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:17, Eric Le Goff  wrote:
>> Have a look at ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr
>
> I had a look at ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr
> I am quite new in FreeBsd but in my case it does not work , ie :
>
> I start a xfce4 session for a (non-root) user
> open the wifimgr from  the 'network' menu
> provide root password as requested
>
> but then it hangs forever on my laptop
>
> Did anyone successfully used wifimgr ? If yes, what could I check to
> make it work ?
>
> PS : I am using FreeBsd 8.0 on an (old) Thinkpad laptop with ipw-2100
> wireless card

This worked just fine for me on my T61 with xfce4. It's just the wpi0
interface itself I'm having problems with at the moment.

Kurt
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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread Yuri

ill...@gmail.com wrote:

Umm . . . yes?  But more seriously, FreeBSD is still
very much a server operating system, expecting it to
be exactly like Torvalds 2.6 OS or BiGa 0.7alpha right
now is a bit much.
  


Really? I was using FreeBSD as a desktop system for at least 10 years 
and it works quite well as a desktop. There are few defects, like the 
lack of network manager.
If it was very much a server operating system, what are kde and gnome 
teams doing in your opinion? They seem to be completely unaware of that 
either.


Yuri
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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:46:48 -0500, "ill...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Umm . . . yes?  But more seriously, FreeBSD is still
> very much a server operating system, [...]

Really? I'm using it exclusively on the desktop since
version 4.0, but okay... well... I'm completely insane. :-)

I found that FreeBSD is an excellent multi-purpose OS.
It runs well on servers, but on desktops, too, as well
as on "mixed forms" (e. g. desktops that provide some
server functionality).

Of course there are some "problems" getting things to
work on FreeBSD especially in the desktop setting, such
as ink-pee electrical paper sheet feeders and "Flash"
make-the-web-unusable stuff. :-)

FreeBSD is strong where other OSes are very week. As
a developer, this especially applied to DOCUMENTATION.
As far as I experienced, Linux is absolutely worse in
this field. Integrity, consistency and well-intended
layouts and principles (instead of arbitrary decisions
that vary with each release or distribution) are
another topic.


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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/12/21 Yuri :
> Eric Le Goff wrote:
>>
>> but then it hangs forever on my laptop
>>
>> Did anyone successfully used wifimgr ? If yes, what could I check to
>> make it work ?
>>
>
>
> It hangs for me too. I contacted the maintainer and he says he is aware of
> the problem and next version will fix it.
> But as I understand it's merely an editor of wpa_supplicant.conf file. I am
> not sure it will function just like kde or gnome network manager in ubuntu.
>
> Also it's amazing there is nothing working available on FreeBSD. Do people
> enjoy editing those files by hand every time they connect to a new network?

Umm . . . yes?  But more seriously, FreeBSD is still
very much a server operating system, expecting it to
be exactly like Torvalds 2.6 OS or BiGa 0.7alpha right
now is a bit much.

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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread Yuri

Eric Le Goff wrote:

but then it hangs forever on my laptop

Did anyone successfully used wifimgr ? If yes, what could I check to
make it work ?
  



It hangs for me too. I contacted the maintainer and he says he is aware 
of the problem and next version will fix it.
But as I understand it's merely an editor of wpa_supplicant.conf file. I 
am not sure it will function just like kde or gnome network manager in 
ubuntu.


Also it's amazing there is nothing working available on FreeBSD. Do 
people enjoy editing those files by hand every time they connect to a 
new network?


Yuri
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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-21 Thread Eric Le Goff
> Have a look at ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr

I had a look at ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr
I am quite new in FreeBsd but in my case it does not work , ie :

I start a xfce4 session for a (non-root) user
open the wifimgr from  the 'network' menu
provide root password as requested

but then it hangs forever on my laptop

Did anyone successfully used wifimgr ? If yes, what could I check to
make it work ?

PS : I am using FreeBsd 8.0 on an (old) Thinkpad laptop with ipw-2100
wireless card



Regards

Eric




On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Glen Barber  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Yuri  wrote:
>> How do I launch network manager that allows to visually manage WiFi and LAN
>> connections?
>> I have FreeBSD on a laptop and I have to establish WiFi connections manually
>> -- it's very inconvenient.
>
> You can always edit wpa_supplicant.conf(5) - you don't need to use WPA/WPA2...
>
>>
>> In Kubuntu this problem is solved and WiFi management is very easy. It's the
>> same Looking for the same in FreeBSD.
>>
>

>
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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-19 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> How do I launch network manager that allows to visually manage WiFi and LAN
> connections?
> I have FreeBSD on a laptop and I have to establish WiFi connections manually
> -- it's very inconvenient.

You can always edit wpa_supplicant.conf(5) - you don't need to use WPA/WPA2...

>
> In Kubuntu this problem is solved and WiFi management is very easy. It's the
> same Looking for the same in FreeBSD.
>

Have a look at ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr


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How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-19 Thread Yuri
How do I launch network manager that allows to visually manage WiFi and 
LAN connections?
I have FreeBSD on a laptop and I have to establish WiFi connections 
manually -- it's very inconvenient.


In Kubuntu this problem is solved and WiFi management is very easy. It's 
the same Looking for the same in FreeBSD.


Also how to make ifconfig display very long SSID strings?

Yuri
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