Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using...

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/09/2011 09:17, krad wrote:
> If its been syncd to openbsd 4.5 version of pf, its still quite a way behind
> openbsd's version in the latest release as they are not on 4.9 with 5.0
> imminent. Looking at the docs there were quite a lot of changes when openbsd
> was bumped to 4.7

Yes.  However I believe this does solve the incompatibility between PF
and vimage, which is fantastic.  There's been a lot of work gone into
FreeBSD network stack to add capabilities that OpenBSD simply doesn't
have -- mostly to do with fine-grained locking, multiprocessing support
and virtualization -- all of which makes the importing process pretty
non-trivial.

Cheers,

Matthew

PS.  Mac OS X Lion now uses PF for firewalling too.  Apparently it's
even older than the PF in FreeBSD:

   http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2011/pf10yrs/mgp00078.html

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Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using...

2011-09-21 Thread krad
On 21 September 2011 09:05, Matthew Seaman
wrote:

> On 21/09/2011 08:34, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote:
> >> Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD
> version is
> >> using? Currently I'm doing this:
> >>
> >> grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING
> >>
> >> Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version'
> >> flag in pfctl.
> >
> > Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF.  bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter
> > which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to
> > select certain packets from the wire.  As far as I know, bpf doesn't
> > have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number.
> > It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
>
> One of these days I'll learn not to send e-mail before coffee.  Please
> ignore the above -- red herring.
>
> > PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD.  Again, it's part of
> > the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number.
> > Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe most
> > released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there is
> > an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0
> > release.  You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be
> sure.
>
> In fact, the last import listed as such in the CVS history was from
> OpenBSD 4.1 but that was around 2007 when FreeBSD was on version 6.x --
> long time ago.  There's been plenty of updates since (which, IIRC, made
> the FreeBSD code pretty much equivalent to what is in OpenBSD 4.2), but
> no wholesale reimport until about 2 months ago, when OpenBSD 4.5 code
> was imported into head.
>
> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=223637
>
> AFAIK, that is not a candidate for MFC to stable/8 or earlier, as it
> modifies KBIs.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Matthew
>
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>
If its been syncd to openbsd 4.5 version of pf, its still quite a way behind
openbsd's version in the latest release as they are not on 4.9 with 5.0
imminent. Looking at the docs there were quite a lot of changes when openbsd
was bumped to 4.7
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Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using...

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/09/2011 08:34, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD version 
>> is
>> using? Currently I'm doing this:
>>
>> grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING
>>
>> Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version'
>> flag in pfctl.
> 
> Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF.  bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter
> which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to
> select certain packets from the wire.  As far as I know, bpf doesn't
> have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number.
> It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth.

One of these days I'll learn not to send e-mail before coffee.  Please
ignore the above -- red herring.

> PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD.  Again, it's part of
> the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number.
> Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe most
> released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there is
> an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0
> release.  You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be sure.

In fact, the last import listed as such in the CVS history was from
OpenBSD 4.1 but that was around 2007 when FreeBSD was on version 6.x --
long time ago.  There's been plenty of updates since (which, IIRC, made
the FreeBSD code pretty much equivalent to what is in OpenBSD 4.2), but
no wholesale reimport until about 2 months ago, when OpenBSD 4.5 code
was imported into head.

http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=223637

AFAIK, that is not a candidate for MFC to stable/8 or earlier, as it
modifies KBIs.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using...

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote:
> Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD version is
> using? Currently I'm doing this:
> 
> grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING
> 
> Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version'
> flag in pfctl.

Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF.  bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter
which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to
select certain packets from the wire.  As far as I know, bpf doesn't
have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number.
It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth.

PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD.  Again, it's part of
the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number.
Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe most
released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there is
an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0
release.  You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be sure.

Cheers,

Matthew

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How to find out which version of PF a given box is using...

2011-09-21 Thread Modulok
List,

Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD version is
using? Currently I'm doing this:

grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING

Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version'
flag in pfctl.
-Modulok-
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