Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Simon Rutishauser wrote: But, apt-cache isn't yet finished there. You can also run apt-cache show gnomeicu which presents you lots of details about the one package with this name: [...] is there something like that for FreeBSD, too? pkg_info will provide most, if not all, of that information, provided you feed it the right command line options. -- David Fleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
Am Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:03:55 +0100 schrieb Jez Hancock: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: /ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch Sorry should have been: /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch of course :| Sounds quite nice... But, apt-cache isn't yet finished there. You can also run apt-cache show gnomeicu which presents you lots of details about the one package with this name: - dependencies - version - architecture - size - md5sum and last but most important - A description of what the program is about is there something like that for FreeBSD, too? MfG Peschmä --- Attached output of apt-cache show gnomeicu: Package: gnomeicu Priority: optional Section: gnome Installed-Size: 2672 Maintainer: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 0.98.3-3 Replaces: gtkicq Provides: gtkicq Depends: gdk-imlib1, libart2 (= 1.2.13-5), libaudiofile0 (= 0.2.3-4), libc6 ( = 2.2.5-13), libdb3 (= 3.2.9-17), libesd0 (= 0.2.23-1) | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2. 23-1), libgdbmg1, libgdk-pixbuf2 (= 0.18.0-3), libglade-gnome0, libglade0, libg lib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgnet1.1-glib1 (= 1.1.4), libgnome32 (= 1.2.13-5), libgno mesupport0 (= 1.2.13-5), libgnomeui32 (= 1.4.2-3), libgnorba27 (= 1.2.13-5), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-4), liborbit0 (= 0.5.16), libpanel-applet0 (= 1.4.0.2-3), libxml1 (= 1:1.8.14-3), xlibs ( 4.1.0), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) Suggests: gnome-panel Filename: pool/main/g/gnomeicu/gnomeicu_0.98.3-3_i386.deb Size: 712328 MD5Sum: bc7782b71a9d9f99a6152fac97f915c1 Description: Small, fast and functional clone of Mirabilis' ICQ GnomeICU is a clone of Mirabilis' popular ICQ written with GTK+. ICQ informs you who's online at any time and enables you to contact them at will. . -- Features -- * URL Transfer (w/transfer to Netscape ability) * Sign up as a new user, or with an existing account * Allow other users to add you to their list * Message History per user * Chat * Icon and Color Based on Status of User * Online and Offline Section * Receive Message Queue * Changeable Status * Sending Messages * Sound Events * Reply Box in Same Window as Receive Message * Send, Reply, Cancel, Read Next buttons in dialog boxes * Connection History Window * Invisible List * Color Customization * GUI Configuration * V5 Protocol (new) * Drag 'n' Drop support for files and URLs (from Netscape) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howto find packages
Hi: I come form the Debian Linux world and would like to know how I can information about packages for installation. I use prots to install some, but many of them I just want to install binary files. For eample, in Debian, I can use apt-cache search mozilla and this will list all packages with mozilla in it and then I can select the package for installation. In FreeBSD, when I run pkg_add -r mozilla I keep getting an error stating that it could not download package ftp://../mozilla.tgz. Is there a better way to find what ackages are available for installation? Thanks in advance. -D ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:00AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I come form the Debian Linux world and would like to know how I can information about packages for installation. I use prots to install some, but many of them I just want to install binary files. Debian apt is certainly one of the better package management systems. For eample, in Debian, I can use apt-cache search mozilla and this will list all packages with mozilla in it and then I can select the package for installation. The emphasis in FreeBSD is generally on ports rather than packages. For many ports, downloading the source and compiling doesn't take a great deal longer than downloading a binary package. Of course, for some ports compilation takes quite a lot longer. You can use the ports tree to search for what ports/packages are available: % cd /usr/ports % make search key=foo % make search name=bar and you can also 'make readmes' which builds a series of .html files that you can browse through to find stuff. It's essentially the same as what's at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html There's also http://www.freshports.org/ which has a lot of port related stuff. In FreeBSD, when I run pkg_add -r mozilla I keep getting an error stating that it could not download package ftp://../mozilla.tgz. Is there a better way to find what ackages are available for installation? Generally the way to find out what packages are available is to scan what's available on the FTP sites. You can do in a slightly more user friendly that using /stand/sysinstall (/usr/sbin/sysinstall if you're on 5.x) by going to the 'Configure' and then 'Packages' menus. However, sysinstall will try and locate a directory on the FTP servers that matches the version number of your system. This quite often fails: there's not enough room on the FTP servers to keep sets of packages for more than 4 or 5 releases (plus the packages for old releases soon start to be a long way behind the times). Eg. look at: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/ to see which releases have packages available. Note too that sysinstall isn't very sophisticated in the way that it tries to work out what package directory to choose: for instance, if you're tracking 4-STABLE right now, sysinstall complains because it can't find a directory for 4.9-RC2. Note too that the packages on the FTP sites are updated when possible. There will be an official set of packages built for each release -- the 4.9-RELEASE packages went up to the FTP sites quite recently (even though 4.9 hasn't been released yet), which means that the package building cluster has had to be devoted to doing the packages for the release and hasn't had much spare time for producing updated packages for either 4-stable or 5-current recently. There will be a 'Latest' directory for recently updated packages: for 4-STABLE packages the last updates where apparently around 24th September which predates the most recent updates to the ports tree. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:44:06PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:00AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: For eample, in Debian, I can use apt-cache search mozilla and this will list all packages with mozilla in it and then I can select the package for installation. The emphasis in FreeBSD is generally on ports rather than packages. For many ports, downloading the source and compiling doesn't take a great deal longer than downloading a binary package. Of course, for some ports compilation takes quite a lot longer. You can use the ports tree to search for what ports/packages are available: % cd /usr/ports % make search key=foo % make search name=bar snip I noticed a useful looking port tool here recently: /ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch which is a perl script that adds some teeth to the method mentioned by Matthew above. I've not actually used it but it looks useful. Another simple way is to search the INDEX file directly: grep ^mozilla /usr/ports/INDEX to return a list of all ports starting with 'mozilla'. The list can be a bit unreadable so if you add: grep ^mozilla /usr/ports/INDEX | cut -f1-2 -d| it gives a more readable listing: mozilla-thunderbird-0.2|/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird mozilla-1.4,2|/usr/ports/www/mozilla mozilla-1.5b,1|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel mozilla-gtk2-1.5b|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel-gtk2 mozilla-embedded-1.4,2|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-embedded mozilla-embedded-1.5b,1|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-embedded-devel mozilla-firebird-0.6.1_1|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird mozilla-gtk2-1.4|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-gtk2 mozilla-headers-1.4,2|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-headers mozilla-headers-1.5b,1|/usr/ports/www/mozilla-headers-devel mozilla-fonts-1.0_1|/usr/ports/x11-fonts/mozilla-fonts where the first field is the port name and the second is the directory the port resides in. For some ports you might want to ommit the leading '^' (especially in the case of perl packages which generally begin with 'p5-'). This is pretty much what the portsearch tool appears to do (with lots of extra features packed in too)... don't know why I haven't used it yet :=) -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: /ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch Sorry should have been: /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch of course :| -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
I guess what FreeBSD needs is a good port of the apt system Should not be difficult. It can let pkg_xxx do all the installing etc. Would be cool if one existed :) -D --- Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: /ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch Sorry should have been: /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch of course :| -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I guess what FreeBSD needs is a good port of the apt system Should not be difficult. It can let pkg_xxx do all the installing etc. Would be cool if one existed :) I believe that is spelt 'fink' in certain corners of the *BSD world. http://fink.sourceforge.net/ We look forward to your patches integrating this with the FreeBSD ports system. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Howto find packages
On Thursday 16 October 2003 09:03 am, Jez Hancock wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: /ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch Sorry should have been: /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch of course :| I like this one. I used to use the make search option, which I reduced to search name using an alias, but portsearch's output is much cleaner because of the formatting. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
whereis pkgname eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ whereis bash2 bash2: /usr/ports/shells/bash2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:00AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: Hi: I come form the Debian Linux world and would like to know how I can information about packages for installation. I use prots to install some, but many of them I just want to install binary files. For eample, in Debian, I can use apt-cache search mozilla and this will list all packages with mozilla in it and then I can select the package for installation. In FreeBSD, when I run pkg_add -r mozilla I keep getting an error stating that it could not download package ftp://../mozilla.tgz. Is there a better way to find what ackages are available for installation? Thanks in advance. -D ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shawn Morris NTT/Verio IP Engineering v:312.621.7422 f:520.447.7082 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I guess what FreeBSD needs is a good port of the apt system Should not be difficult. It can let pkg_xxx do all the installing etc. Would be cool if one existed :) Packages should work normaly, but can give some trouble afther you update. There is a port called portupgrade which has the same goal as the Debian apt system. You are better of using this if you like to upgrade you installed packages. Packages however can stil be a problem. Debian handels packages better. Its likly that using packages isn't that high on the agenda since installing application by compiling isn't that hard to do with the ports system. i.e.cd /usr/port/www/mozilla; make install make clean or portinstall www/mozilla -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Jez Hancock thusly... On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:44:06PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:00AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: For eample, in Debian, I can use apt-cache search mozilla and this will list all packages with mozilla in it and then I can select the package for installation. You can use the ports tree to search for what ports/packages are available: % cd /usr/ports % make search key=foo % make search name=bar ... I noticed a useful looking port tool here recently: /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch (path corrected) Another simple way is to search the INDEX file directly: grep ^mozilla /usr/ports/INDEX There is also a perl module as a port to find various things about a port... /usr/ports/textproc/p5-FreeBSD-Ports ...author's web page... http://people.freebsd.org/~tom/portpm/ Now to toot my own horn, solid steel perl wheel reinvented (version =5.6 syntax that could be easily molded for use w/ version 5.005)... http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/src/perl/parse-index.perl http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/src/perl/parse-index.perl.pod Supporting module: http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/src/perl/modules/Util.pm ...mind you that the path for the supporting module, Util.pm, needs to be manually adjusted in parse-index.perl. - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
The prblem is that mozilla takes a heck of a long time to compile on my machine and all I want to do is browse the web. :) Oh well. :) -D --- Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I guess what FreeBSD needs is a good port of the apt system Should not be difficult. It can let pkg_xxx do all the installing etc. Would be cool if one existed :) Packages should work normaly, but can give some trouble afther you update. There is a port called portupgrade which has the same goal as the Debian apt system. You are better of using this if you like to upgrade you installed packages. Packages however can stil be a problem. Debian handels packages better. Its likly that using packages isn't that high on the agenda since installing application by compiling isn't that hard to do with the ports system. i.e.cd /usr/port/www/mozilla; make install make clean or portinstall www/mozilla -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
Dinesh Nadarajah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The prblem is that mozilla takes a heck of a long time to compile on my machine and all I want to do is browse the web. :) Oh well. :) Won't pkg_add -r mozilla do it? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:00AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: stating that it could not download package ftp://../mozilla.tgz. Is there a better way to find what ackages are available for installation? I've been getting such good use from these Dru Lavigne articles that I feel obliged posting a link for you, http://www.onlamp.com/pub/q/FreeBSD_Basics The recent port related pages have many useful tips for managing your ports. -- Sean ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
