I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. The end result is that I am getting the bounce messages. I'm sure that

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Yury Michurin
Hello, start with putting spf record on the domain, http://www.netdummy.net/stop-bounce-mail.html and finish with filtering bogus message-id wich was not orignated on your server with whatever software you using. Regards, Yury On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, October 16, 2008 09:01:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. The

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:01:02AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. The end

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: | On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:01:02AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from | email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my |

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Luke Dean
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF and DKIM can discourage but not entirely prevent the spammers from joe-jobbing you. I just started getting these bouncebacks en masse this

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. The end result is that I am

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Yury Michurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hello, start with putting spf record on the domain, http://www.netdummy.net/stop-bounce-mail.html and finish with filtering bogus message-id wich was not orignated on your server with whatever software you using. I've had the spf record for a couple

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF and DKIM can discourage but not

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread RW
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF and DKIM can discourage but not entirely prevent the

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF and DKIM can discourage but not entirely prevent the spammers from joe-jobbing you. I just started

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF and

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:01:02AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread RW
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:58:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi__: Many people recommend SPF for backscatter, but I've yet to hear a cogent argument for why it helps beyond the very optimistic hope that spammers will check that their spam is spf compliant. I

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, RW wrote: SPF increases the probability of spam being rejected at the smtp level at MX servers, so my expectation would be that it would exacerbate backscatter not improve it. The main problem resulting in backscatter happens when forged spam from

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, RW wrote: SPF increases the probability of spam being rejected at the smtp level at MX servers, so my expectation would be that it would exacerbate backscatter not improve it. The main problem resulting in backscatter

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:58:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi__: Many people recommend SPF for backscatter, but I've yet to hear a cogent argument for why it helps beyond the very optimistic hope that spammers will check that their

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: --On Thursday, October 16, 2008 09:01:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 05:38:07PM +0100, RW wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these rules[*], use of technologies like SPF

I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Edwin Groothuis
In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. When this happens I enable the move all messages from mailer-daemon to

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Edwin Groothuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. When this happens I enable the

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread eculp
Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 05:38:07PM +0100, RW wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these

Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages

2008-10-16 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 09:59:17AM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: In the last hour, I've received over 200 legitimate bounce messages from email services as a result of someone having used or worse is using my email address in spam from multiple windows machines and ip addresses. When