Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:27:08PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: In order to restore functionality that my old system provided almost 10 years ago (I checked when I bought it!), I'm currently trying to get wine working. Sadly, its Makefile states: ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386 I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? I don't understand why you have chosen AMD64? You only have 2 GB memory, which can be adressed under i386 too and you can avoid a lot of problems. Today, I am not quite sure about AMD64 because with PAE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#FreeBSD), you have a far better opportunity to address memory above 4 GB. All in all, your system, your rules ;) And maybe fix Gtk+ triggered GPU trouble that way? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: b...@nyx.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? You can get wine running on AMD64, see the following wiki link: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:37:06 +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: I don't understand why you have chosen AMD64? You only have 2 GB memory, which can be adressed under i386 too and you can avoid a lot of problems. Reason: The i386 platform is obsoleted, and there will be less and less targets to install on. Furthermore, I though it would be good to use AMD64 because if the CPU. I know the ridiculous amount of 2 GB RAM is rather small. :-) Today, I am not quite sure about AMD64 because with PAE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#FreeBSD), you have a far better opportunity to address memory above 4 GB. With the present and upcoming problems, I currently really consider reinstalling the whole system. It's not _that_ problematic as it is sufficiently fast. It's also a nice learning experience. You _can't_ imagine the amount of things that stopped working. :-) All in all, your system, your rules ;) My system, my mistakes. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:04:53 +1000, Ashley Williams wrote: I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? You can get wine running on AMD64, see the following wiki link: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d Thanks, I now got it working, the only remaining problems is that the programs I intend to run (older than 5 years, maybe even 10) have problems with DirectX stuff which I am supposed to manually install... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Christian Barthel b...@nyx.user-mode.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:27:08PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? I don't understand why you have chosen AMD64? You only have 2 GB memory, which can be adressed under i386 too and you can avoid a lot of problems. Today, I am not quite sure about AMD64 because with PAE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#FreeBSD), you have a far better opportunity to address memory above 4 GB. Some applications run faster in 64-bit mode, because they make good use of the additional free registers... This is particularly important for crypto-stuff (it's noticeable even without benchmarking), and in some multimedia applications as well. And just to wit: some register-hungry applications run even faster on an old UltraSparc IIIi 1500 Mhz despite its slow memory than on a Phenom with 2.4 GHz and fast DDR 3 RAM. So it all depends on the particular applications. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
Christian Barthel writes: Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? I don't understand why you have chosen AMD64? You only have 2 GB memory, which can be adressed under i386 too and you can avoid a lot of problems. Perhaps they think it will be easier to add more memory than to reinstall FreeBSD and ports? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Installing and using wine on amd64
In order to restore functionality that my old system provided almost 10 years ago (I checked when I bought it!), I'm currently trying to get wine working. Sadly, its Makefile states: ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386 I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? And maybe fix Gtk+ triggered GPU trouble that way? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On 08/14/2011 15:27, Polytropon wrote: In order to restore functionality that my old system provided almost 10 years ago (I checked when I bought it!), I'm currently trying to get wine working. Sadly, its Makefile states: ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386 I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? And maybe fix Gtk+ triggered GPU trouble that way? :-) This worked out for me when I was in the same predicament a few days ago: http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 -- Andre Goree an...@drenet.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:27:08PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: In order to restore functionality that my old system provided almost 10 years ago (I checked when I bought it!), I'm currently trying to get wine working. Sadly, its Makefile states: ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386 I've done some research and found lots of posts several years old that suggest that using wine on AMD64 is not possible or requires binary packages that don't exist, and even if one can install it, it doesn't run. Has this situation improved meanwhile? Does anyone have a recipe on how to get wine running? There is someone who makes packages for wine on amd64. See http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/wine/ If these packages don't work, see http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine and http://149.20.54.209/showthread.php?t=13982 Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? Try if the available packages work first; that is probably significantly less work. Otherwise, with only 2 GB RAM I don't think there is much gained by using amd64. Unless your particular applications are faster on amd64. And maybe fix Gtk+ triggered GPU trouble that way? :-) Could be. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpATB7twwDN7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:32:54 -0500, Andre Goree wrote: This worked out for me when I was in the same predicament a few days ago: http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 Thank you, I've just rriet it. Pre-installation tasks are easy (implied that I did everything correctly), but then, make and python are in the state pfault and the system becomes very sluggish. Here some of the messages, repeated many times: # make [...] /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5439: warning: duplicate script for target package-depends ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5442: warning: duplicate script for target actual-package-depends ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5449: warning: duplicate script for target package-recursive ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5459: warning: duplicate script for target missing ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5513: warning: duplicate script for target www-site ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5529: warning: duplicate script for target /usr/ports/emulators/wine/README.html ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5545: warning: duplicate script for target /usr/ports/emulators/wine/README.html ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5672: warning: duplicate script for target /usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/.PLIST.mktmp ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 6159: warning: duplicate script for target desktop-categories ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 6231: warning: duplicate script for target check-desktop-entries ignored /usr/ports/emulators/wine/../wine/Makefile, line 181: warning: duplicate script for target pre-build ignored /usr/ports/emulators/wine/../wine/Makefile, line 190: warning: duplicate script for target post-install ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 2796: warning: duplicate script for target master-sites-ALL ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 2798: warning: duplicate script for target patch-sites-ALL ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 2801: warning: duplicate script for target master-sites-DEFAULT ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 2803: warning: duplicate script for target patch-sites-DEFAULT ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 3220: warning: duplicate script for target ignorelist-verbose ignored [...] /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.licenses.mk, line 563: warning: duplicate script for target check-license ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.licenses.mk, line 724: warning: duplicate script for target /usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/.license_done.wine._usr_local ignored /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.licenses.mk, line 756: warning: duplicate script for target install-license ignored [...] swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed [...] Aug 14 23:44:37 r56 kernel: pid 62075 (make), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space Killed There are many of the swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed messages before the whole process stops. Any idea what could be wrong here, or is this expected? My system has 2 GB RAM and a 2 GB swap partition. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:42:04 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: There is someone who makes packages for wine on amd64. See http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/wine/ Thanks, this did help. I was able to install this package, but then had to manually install wine-gecko. After changing $PACKAGESITE to the i386 location for latest 8-STABLE, it was possible, and wine is running. I'll now see if it fits my simple needs. Otherwise, with only 2 GB RAM [...] Oh ONLY! :-) [...] I don't think there is much gained by using amd64. Unless your particular applications are faster on amd64. I'm not sure, this is a simple home desktop, doing web browsing, hopefully some gaming later on, a bit of multimedia and of course application development, so I'm not depending on anything AMD64-specific, if I see this correctly. And maybe fix Gtk+ triggered GPU trouble that way? :-) Could be. Even though my new system feels much faster, fine-tuning and repeated repeatative repeatition problem, i. e. re-installing from scratch is a always something I try to avoid. But maybe it's worth doing so - I'll keep it in mind. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
