Re: Mailing Lists (and high volumes) vs Newsgroups

2005-01-03 Thread Andreas Davour
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
Although I've been using FreeBSD for several years, I have not been
active with mailing lists at all.  I preferred to use newsgroups search
and a little bit of posting.
I am wondering, why mailing list is the official support mechanism (as
opposed to newsgroups)?  Ruby seems to be supported through newsgroups
quite nicely.
You mention Gnus as your newsreader. Try using it for mail then. It's
quite workable. Then you get all the benefits of news that you need.
/Andreas
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Mailing Lists (and high volumes) vs Newsgroups

2005-01-02 Thread Sergei Gnezdov
Although I've been using FreeBSD for several years, I have not been
active with mailing lists at all.  I preferred to use newsgroups search
and a little bit of posting.

I am wondering, why mailing list is the official support mechanism (as
opposed to newsgroups)?  Ruby seems to be supported through newsgroups
quite nicely.

It seems to me that mailing lists still expose senders email address.  I
am worried about getting spam because of this.  Ok, nntp is even worse,
but I can manage that.

I also find that email applications don't deal as well with high volume
email messages.  I am comparing against newsreaders like:
- Emacs GNUS
- slrn
I like these newsreaders, because they allow me to assign scores based
on the subject and authors.  I can easily handle a very high volume ruby
newsgroup.  The longer I use the newsreader the faster I become.  For
example, if I did not pay attention the the original message the replies
are ignored automatically for me.  I will read 2 - 3 messages I am
interested out of 1000 post list in 30 seconds.

Ok, may be I am using the wrong tools...  I settled on Evolution as my
primary application and I like it.  Thunderbird is not bad either.
Neither can handle high volume subscriptions.

I'd appretiate advice on how to improve email handling.



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Re: Mailing Lists (and high volumes) vs Newsgroups

2005-01-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 02), Sergei Gnezdov said:
 Although I've been using FreeBSD for several years, I have not been
 active with mailing lists at all.  I preferred to use newsgroups
 search and a little bit of posting.

You can use gmane.org to read almost all of the FreeBSD lists via nntp.
 
 I am wondering, why mailing list is the official support mechanism
 (as opposed to newsgroups)?  Ruby seems to be supported through
 newsgroups quite nicely.

It's a lot easier to read email offline than nntp, for one, and
conversations progress much quicker on email lists because people
interested in the topic get messages immediately instead of having to
constantly poll the news server.  I subscribe to mailing lists that I
am active on, and less-frequently used ones I read via gmane's nntp
interface every few days.  I use mutt's scoring rules to sort topics
(mutt is both an email client and a newsreader, but I only use it for
mail; I read my news with mozilla).

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